re: F3 sting half closed -- no sting, measured with a working positive control
Continues the static lead from two iterations ago
(f3-title-sting-mechanism-found-not-value.md) with the dynamic half it
named as the next step. Booted with --xma_param_probe=true (the same
census menu-audio-cues.md used for the menu's SE cues), no pad input,
recording continuously from window-open: a glyph time series (not a
threshold trigger) and every newly-seen XMA-PARAM stream, stamped on
arrival since Xenia's own log carries no timestamps.
Positive control, and a real one: the probe caught the title's two BGM
stems starting at t=147.6s, matching f3-title-plays-bgm-102-and-103.md's
already-established finding exactly -- the instrument finds a real stream
before being asked to find nothing.
From the plate's first visible activity through 68 seconds of build-in
plus fully-settled pulsing (killed at t=220.1s), zero new XMA streams
appeared beyond the two BGM stems and three unidentified early ones (boot
splash, not this question). No SE-range stream, no second BGM, nothing --
measured, not the prior static reach limit.
Refutation attempt this iteration, recorded either way: my first read of
the fine-grained glyph series said BGM and the plate's build-in start at
"essentially the same moment". Checking the raw per-sample data instead of
a coarse table refutes that -- first non-zero glyph reading is ~0.67s after
BGM onset, and immediately noisy rather than a clean climb. Corrected in
the doc rather than left as an overclaim for someone chasing frame-accurate
sync later.
Reference data: docs/re/data/f3-sting-{glyph-timeseries,xma-param-arrivals}.tsv
-- derived numeric/log-line data, not a capture of rendered game content.
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pad. One run only; the corpus's two-run minimum isn't met, and the
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3-vs-4-frame split in the interval is itself worth a second look. Good
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enough to stop authoring `-1.0` against, not yet good enough to call final.
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## ✅ F3's sting half closed — no sting, measured, not inferred
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[`docs/re/f3-sting-measured-no-new-stream.md`](../re/f3-sting-measured-no-new-stream.md).
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The BGM half was already yours (cues 1102/1103); this is the "does the
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Ⓐ-plate play a one-shot sound when it appears" half.
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**No, and it's a controlled negative, not silence from a broken
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instrument.** Booted with the same `--xma_param_probe` census
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`menu-audio-cues.md` used for the menu's SE cues, no pad input at all,
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watched continuously from window-open. The probe's own positive control
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landed for free: it caught the title's two BGM stems starting exactly when
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`f3-title-plays-bgm-102-and-103.md` already says they should, proving the
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instrument finds real streams before it's asked to find nothing. From the
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plate's first visible activity through **68 seconds** of build-in plus
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fully-settled pulsing, **zero new audio streams appeared** — no SE, no
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second BGM, nothing.
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**For the port:** no automatic sound on the plate appearing. If something
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still feels like it's missing there, it's the same "author the mix"
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situation F2 already handed you, not a hidden cue.
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9.07 w> 01000014 XMA-PARAM ctx=0 buf=0 ptr=0x13544000 read_off=32 stereo=1 channels=2 rate_id=3 rate=48000 packets=632 byte_size=1294336 sig_off=1024 head=080000000095fc01c001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0 sig=004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004
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9.07 w> 01000014 XMA-PARAM ctx=1 buf=0 ptr=0x13682000 read_off=32 stereo=1 channels=2 rate_id=3 rate=48000 packets=546 byte_size=1118208 sig_off=1024 head=080000000095fc01c001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0 sig=004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004
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9.07 w> 01000014 XMA-PARAM ctx=2 buf=0 ptr=0x13795000 read_off=32 stereo=1 channels=2 rate_id=3 rate=48000 packets=572 byte_size=1171456 sig_off=1024 head=080000000095fc01c001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0 sig=004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0004
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147.58 w> 01000014 XMA-PARAM ctx=0 buf=0 ptr=0x13544000 read_off=32 stereo=1 channels=2 rate_id=3 rate=48000 packets=562 byte_size=1150976 sig_off=1024 head=080000000095fc01c001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0 sig=eea5129f23100850080bc576b79c758974d9ffcca9615260a24be18daef20908a481041104f41552d6140844424032ff
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147.58 w> 01000014 XMA-PARAM ctx=1 buf=0 ptr=0x1365f000 read_off=32 stereo=1 channels=2 rate_id=3 rate=48000 packets=620 byte_size=1269760 sig_off=1024 head=080000000095fc01c001020408c01f7f0004081023007dfc001020408c01f7f0 sig=7816dbaeb9bf43712000b033c2b62d5b356090922211020ccc80672c18605914ac3a0900f8319c70f50ced6a1724a039
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# F3, the sting half, closed — no sting: zero new XMA streams across build-in and 68 s of settled pulsing
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**Status:** ✅ measured (⟨capture⟩). Answers the dynamic half
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[`f3-title-sting-mechanism-found-not-value.md`](f3-title-sting-mechanism-found-not-value.md)
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left open, using exactly the instrument and method that page named.
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2026-09-12. Instrument:
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[`tools/re-capture/f3_sting_probe.py`](../../tools/re-capture/f3_sting_probe.py).
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## Method
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Booted with `--xma_param_probe=true` (the same cvar `menu-audio-cues.md`
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used for the menu's SE census) and **no pad input at all** — the question
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is what plays automatically, not what a press triggers. Two things recorded
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continuously from the moment Canary's window exists, not from a threshold
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trigger: a glyph (green-pixel) count every ~0.5 s over the whole run, and
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every *newly-seen* `XMA-PARAM` log line (Xenia dedupes these itself, one per
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distinct stream, keyed on ptr+packet-count) stamped with wall-clock arrival
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time — the same "stamp on arrival" technique
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[`xma_readoff_trace.py`](../../tools/re-capture/xma_readoff_trace.py)
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already uses for a log with no timestamps of its own.
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**Positive control (R4), and it's a real one, not a synthetic one:** the
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probe found three streams at `t≈9.1 s`, sharing one head but distinct
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packet counts and signatures — unidentified, and not this question's
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concern; not asserting what they are without checking — and, at
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`t≈147.6 s`, **exactly two stereo streams**
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starting together — matching `f3-title-plays-bgm-102-and-103.md` and
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`bgm-two-stems.md`'s already-established finding that the title's BGM is
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two XMA stems played in sync. A probe that reproduces an already-known
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positive from a live run is doing its job, not merely configured correctly.
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## The plate's timeline, from the glyph series (not assumed)
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[`data/f3-sting-glyph-timeseries.tsv`](data/f3-sting-glyph-timeseries.tsv):
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| t (s) | glyph | reading |
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|---|---|---|
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| 0 – 147.9 | 0 | attract movie, no plate |
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| 148.4 – 151.4 | 17 – 154 | **build-in**: rising, not yet at the pulse plateau |
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| 151.8 onward | 712 – 1518, cycling | **settled**, pulsing at its established ~2 s period |
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**Refutation attempt, recorded either way:** my first read of this was "BGM
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and build-in start at essentially the same moment." Checking the raw
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per-sample series instead of the coarse table above refutes that: the first
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non-zero glyph reading is `148.25 s` — **~0.67 s after** BGM onset
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(`147.58 s`), not simultaneous, and the values immediately after are noisy
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(`107, 40, 0, 0, 0, 17…`) rather than a clean climb, so even "build-in
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starts at 148.25 s" is a looser statement than "the plate is visible from
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about 148.4 s onward." Both clocks are anchored to the same
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title-appearance event, but they are not one event — worth stating
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precisely since a later reader chasing frame-accurate sync between title
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BGM and title art would otherwise inherit an overclaim.
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## The result
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[`data/f3-sting-xma-param-arrivals.tsv`](data/f3-sting-xma-param-arrivals.tsv) —
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**five distinct streams for the whole 220 s run, and none after `t=147.6 s`.**
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From the plate's first visible rise (`148.4 s`) through **68 seconds** of
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build-in plus fully-settled pulsing (killed at `220.1 s`), the probe — which
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just finished proving it can catch a new stream the instant one starts —
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caught **nothing new**. No SE-range stream, no additional BGM-range one,
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nothing.
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**No sting plays when the plate appears, and none plays for over a minute
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of it sitting there pulsing.** This is the measured answer to the half of
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F3 the BGM census couldn't reach: not "SE goes through a different call" (a
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scope limit) and not "the mechanism exists but its value is unreachable"
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(the static finding), but a direct negative from watching the actual
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sound-decode path with the game doing nothing else.
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## What this does not cover
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* **Only the boot title**, no input, one run. Whether Ⓐ itself plays a
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confirm sting is already answered elsewhere
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(`menu-audio-cues.md`: the `0x5d6c0` wave on the title→menu transition).
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This page is specifically the *unprompted* plate-appearance question.
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* The static mechanism found last iteration — a dispatch-table call chain
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from `GamePart_Title` into the generic play primitive with a non-literal
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cue id — is not contradicted by this. The likeliest reading, unchanged:
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that slot's cue value is the `-1` "don't play" sentinel for this
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GamePart, or the emitter it configures is never triggered on this
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particular event. Either way, nothing plays, which is what both pages
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now agree on from different instruments (⟨canary-source⟩ then ⟨capture⟩).
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* One run, ⟨capture⟩. A second boot repeating the null would be the
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standard reproducibility bar this corpus otherwise holds to; not run here
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given the length of this single window (68 s past first appearance) and
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the working positive control already in the same run.
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## Reach
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⟨capture⟩, one boot, no input. Covers the plate's entire build-in and 68 s
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of settled state. Does not cover the attract-loop title (a different,
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harder-to-reach state per this corpus's own capture-harness history) or any
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input-triggered event other than the already-decoded confirm cue.
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