Chasing the title-screen crash into the emulator's own diagnostics turned it from a mystery into a controlled experiment, and knocked over two things this corpus said yesterday. Withdrawn #1: "the fault address 0x1_0000000C is a pointer with a stale high word". The crash dump prints r25 = 0x0000000C, clean. Xenia maps the guest's 4 GiB at host 0x1_00000000, so that IS guest address 12. The guest dereferenced the small integer 12. Withdrawn #2: "with --mem_watch=false the crash does not happen at all", which named the crash-oracle handoff's suspect #1 as measured. It was confounded — every --mem_watch=false run had also had a warm cache. Held cold, the throw happens with the probe off (2 437 crash dumps). mem_watch is eliminated for this crash. What it actually is: the access violation is the guest's own `throw` RETURNING, because this build logs guest C++ exceptions and continues rather than unwinding. So the event is the throw, and with --cache_throw_diag=true the guest names it: std::out_of_range, from the cache-manager flush, with a deque of 38 entries (37 distinct, one duplicated) against a 37-key map, every one of them absent from the flush's snapshot but present in the live map — the TOCTOU race the logger's own message describes. And the new, useful part: the trigger is the on-disc cache. Complete cache, no throw (2 runs). Directory moved aside or half-rebuilt, throw ~100 s into the boot (3 runs, including one that threw with NO access violation behind it — which is why crash dialogs are the wrong thing to count). A suspect in that bisection plan now costs a `mv` and two minutes instead of a mission.
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The title-screen crash is an STL map/set erase on a bad iterator
Status: ✅ CONFIRMED — the guest throws std::out_of_range from an STL
map/set erase during its cache flush, and an incomplete on-disc cache
triggers it about 100 s into a boot (4 runs, 2 each way). 🟡 PROBABLE that this
is the same defect as the Ready-Room crash — same exception type, same
subsystem, same TOCTOU shape — but ❌ the mem_watch probe that handoff ranks
as suspect #1 is eliminated here: with the cache cold, the throw happens with
the probe off. ⚠️
two readings in the first version of this note are withdrawn (see the
correction below): the fault address is not a corrupt pointer, and the access
violation is not the bug.
Found while trying to get past the title screen for a second UI screen's paint
order (canary-scripted-input-traps.md). It is
worth a page of its own because it turns a crash that cost a whole mission to
reproduce into one that costs a mv and 100 seconds.
The reproduction
Move the game's cache directory aside and boot with --cache_throw_diag=true:
mv ~/.local/share/Xenia/cache/aab216c3 /tmp/ # reversible; the game rebuilds it
run-canary --mem_watch=true --cache_throw_diag=true \
--logged_profile_slot_0_xuid=B13EBABEBABEBABE
grep GUEST-THROW <log> # ~100 s in
With the cache complete, the same boot produces no throw at all. The original symptom — what this note was opened for — looks like this:
Access Violation: read at 0x000000010000000C
PC: 0x82307128 guest thread 9
… preceded by HostPathDevice::ResolvePath(\aab216c3\5\c10eae6)
and RtlRaiseException(702DF7F0(E06D7363), ContextArg)
"Guest attempted to throw a C++ exception!"
Xenia pauses itself and stacks crash dialogs — 991 in one run, 2 437 in another.
What the code is
0x82307128 is inside sub_823070B0 (0x823070B0..0x823074D0, has EH), and the
function identifies itself: it references the string
'invalid map/set<T> iterator' at 0x82062A8C, builds it with the string
helpers at 0x8216E7E8 / 0x8216E5C8, and throws it through 0x825F23D8.
The node layout in the prologue is MSVC's std::_Tree_node exactly:
823070C8 lbz r10, 25(r5) ; iterator->_Ptr->_Isnil (offset 25)
… ; if set -> build the string and THROW
82307124 bl 0x8244E2A8 ; (iterator helper)
82307128 lwz r11, 0(r25) ; node->_Left (offset 0) <-- FAULT
8230713C lwz r27, 8(r25) ; node->_Right (offset 8)
_Left 0, _Parent 4, _Right 8, _Color 24, _Isnil 25 — that is the MSVC
red-black tree node, so this is a std::map/std::set erase (it validates
the iterator, then walks the node). The crash is the very first dereference
after the validation.
Correction: the fault address is not a corrupt pointer, and the AV is not the bug
The first version of this note read 0x00000001_0000000C as "a 32-bit pointer
with a stale high word" and offered an emulator register bug as one of two
readings. Both readings were wrong, and the crash dump itself says so — it
prints the registers, and
r25 = 000000000000000C
is clean. Xenia maps the 4 GiB guest address space at host 0x1_00000000, so
"read at 0x1_0000000C" is the host address of guest address 0x0000000C.
The guest simply dereferenced the small integer 12.
And the access violation is a consequence of the throw, not an independent
fault. sub_823070B0 validates the iterator, and on failure builds the string
and calls the throw at 0x82307118; a throw does not return — except here.
RtlRaiseException_entry in this build handles 0xE06D7363 by logging
"Guest attempted to throw a C++ exception!" and returning (guest EH is only
dispatched under --eh_dispatch, which its own cvar help records as disproven
for this crash). So execution falls out of the throw into the code that assumed
it would never run:
82307118 bl 0x825F23D8 ; throw std::out_of_range("invalid map/set<T> iterator")
8230711C addi r3, r31, 276 ; <- execution RESUMES here, in this build
82307120 or r25, r5, r5 ; r5 has been clobbered by the throw call: 0x0C
82307124 bl 0x8244E2A8
82307128 lwz r11, 0(r25) ; <- AV, on 12
That means the 1 895 stacked crash dialogs are noise from one guest throw, and the event to study is the throw.
The throw, with the guest's own diagnosis
Run with --cache_throw_diag=true (a cvar this fork already carries) and the
guest says everything — the full record is committed as
captures/cache-flush-throw-cold-cache.log:
GUEST-THROW type=.?AVout_of_range@std@@ object=702DF950 lr=82612B50
GUEST-THROW guest stack: 825F2444 8230711C 8245A1BC 8245A86C 824AFFC4
CACHE-DUMP deque_count=38 list_count=37 map_size=24
CACHE-DUMP deque hashpairs: [0]D4EA4615:E46EE8CA [1]69D8E45C:E534FFEA … [37]AAB216C3:A2C8C185
CACHE-DUMP flush_sp=702DF9D0 snapshot_keys=1 deque_NOT_in_snapshot=38
(these are what map::at throws on; in_live_map=1 => added during the flush's
UNLOCKED window = the TOCTOU race)
- The thrown type is
std::out_of_range— the same type the Ready-Room crash handoff names, from the same subsystem. - The stack is
throw ← sub_823070B0 ← sub_8245A098+0x124 ← sub_8245A5E0+0x28C ← sub_824AFF88+0x3C. - The keys are
<container hash>:<entry hash>pairs, and they are the on-disc cache files:AAB216C3:5C10EAE6is\aab216c3\5\c10eae6, the very path the log resolves one line before the crash. - The deque holds a duplicate: 38 entries, 37 distinct, with
AAB216C3:A2C8C185twice, against a map of 37 keys.
The mechanism itself was already worked out by whoever wrote this logger — the flush snapshots the map, then walks a deque every entry of which is missing from the snapshot but present in the live map, i.e. added inside the flush's unlocked window. This note adds no new theory there.
What is new: a 100-second, on-demand trigger
The throw is not random. It follows the state of the game's on-disc cache
(~/.local/share/Xenia/cache/<container>/…, the \aab216c3\… device):
| run | cache state | GUEST-THROW |
crash dumps |
|---|---|---|---|
| A | complete (6 files) | 0 | 0 |
| B | directory moved aside — cold | 1 | 1 895 |
| C | partially rebuilt (1 file + a .tmp) |
1 | 0 |
| D | the original 6-file cache restored | 0 | 0 |
| E | cold and --mem_watch=false |
1 | 2 437 |
All four reached the same boot stage (each resolves the same 87719002 /
aab216c3 cache entries; the warm runs went further, so this is not "warm runs
stopped early"). Runs B and C throw at the same point in the boot, around 100 s
in, long before anything a player would call gameplay.
Run E is the important one, and it withdraws a claim this note made yesterday.
The earlier version said "with --mem_watch=false the crash does not happen at
all", which named the handoff's suspect #1 as measured. That comparison was
confounded: every --mem_watch=false run so far had also had a warm cache.
Holding the cache cold and turning the probe off, the guest throws anyway — so
mem_watch is not the trigger for this crash, and the variable that is, is
the cache.
So a suspect in the handoff's bisection plan no longer costs "one build plus one
Ready-Room run": move the cache directory aside and boot. Note run C — the throw
happened with no access violation behind it, which is why counting crash
dialogs is the wrong signal and grep GUEST-THROW is the right one.
Stated as not settled: n = 2 on the warm side, n = 3 on the incomplete side,
one box, one build; and the elimination of mem_watch is for this throw, not
necessarily for the Ready-Room one, which nothing here has re-run. And this says
nothing about why the deque grows during the flush — whether that race is
reachable on hardware or is an artifact of emulator timing (the handoff's
position) is exactly the open question, and a cheap trigger is only a tool for
answering it.
The other crash PC, for completeness
The one unreproduced crash after an Ⓐ press was at 0x824578A0, in
sub_82457780 (0x82457780..0x82457958, one caller, sub_82457038). It is an
unrolled 4 × 16-bit copy loop:
82457890 lhz r6, 0(r10) 82457898 lhz r4, 4(r10)
82457894 lhz r5, 2(r10) 8245789C lhz r10, 6(r10)
824578A0 sth r6, 0(r9) <-- FAULT (a STORE, not a load)
so a bad destination, in what looks like a small block copy — a different failure from the tree erase above, and with one observation it stays at that.
Why this matters beyond the blocker
The Ready-Room crash costs a full mission to reproduce, which is why its
bisection plan in the handoff is written as "one build + one Ready-Room run" per
suspect. If this title-screen crash is the same defect, each suspect costs 40
seconds instead, and suspect #1 (--mem_watch=false) is already measured here:
it removes the crash.