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The title menu — how it moves, and where each button goes

Status: CONFIRMED (measured, by driving the running game) for the movement rules and for four of the five main-menu destinations. 🟡 the GamePart id behind each destination is a name match onto the decoded id table, not a measurement. NEW GAME deliberately untested.

Answers MISSION Q5 and most of Q4. Nothing here is on the disc in any form found so far — the port is authoring these rules from this page, not transcribing a field.

Q5 — movement

Two boots via tools/re-capture/boot_menu.sh, cursor read off the focus ring with tools/re-capture/menu_focus.py.

behaviour evidence
initial focus, main menu TUTORIAL — the middle item, not the top 2/2 boots, the first frame after the menu appears
initial focus, EXTRAS MISSION SELECT — the top item extras-wrap.png
⬆⬇ — one item per press one item per press indirect but sound: the wrap montage's 4 presses from EXTRAS landing on OPTIONS only counts out if each press moves exactly one
⬆⬇ — no auto-repeat none — a 2.0 s held ⬇ moves the cursor exactly once measured 2026-08-30, data/nav-autorepeat-and-settled-b.txt. The counter passes its control: a single 0.12 s tap gives exactly 1 spike, and the hold gives 1. Spike 0.02020.0220 against a 0.00030.0038 floor. ⚠️ one hold, 2.0 s, ⬇, main menu
wrap at the top ⬆ from the first item goes to the last wrap-montage.png, panels 1→2
wrap at the bottom ⬇ from the last item goes to the first same, panels 3→4, and 4 presses from EXTRAS landing on OPTIONS — i.e. wrapping — is what makes the count come out
left / right nothing, on the main menu cursor unmoved across one ⬅ and one ➡
Ⓑ on a submenu returns to the parent with focus restored to the item you entered fromLOAD GAMELOAD GAME, TUTORIALTUTORIAL, OPTIONSOPTIONS, EXTRASEXTRAS 4/4
Ⓑ on the main menu goes to the title — measured 2026-08-30, delivery-confirmed, ≤ 0.4 s, and with no loading screen in between. and the plate IS re-drawn: Ⓑ on the menu at 351.2 s, plate pulse detected at 358.5 s — ~7 s later (2026-08-30) 1 run../re/data/b-on-main-menu.txt · mid-build-in · settled. The footer point below still stands
Ⓑ on the title nothing — 20 s after a delivery-confirmed Ⓑ the screen is still the title, PRESS Ⓐ BUTTON up measured 2026-08-30, capture · series. This run waited for the plate pulse — the title's own settled signature — before pressing, which is what the earlier attempt failed to do; its press landed during the build-in and was confounded. The 4.3 % of pixels that move are the plate's pulse and the sweeps (glyph 730, inside the 7141520 pulse band)

Wrap holds on both screens tested — the 5-item main menu and the 3-item EXTRAS submenu — so it is a menu rule, not a per-screen table.

⚠️ 2026-08-30 — and the sources DISAGREE, which nothing here had noticed. boot_menu.sh's own closing line says "AT MAIN MENU (cursor on NEW GAME)", and menu-state-in-memory.md's run reaches EXTRAS in four downs, which only counts from NEW GAME. Two sources say NEW GAME; this table says TUTORIAL 2/2. skip_intro.sh presses Ⓐ once and no d-pad, so the harness is not moving the cursor and that does not explain it.

🔴 I tried to settle it and could not: the boot never reached the menu, twice — the title gate cannot fire on this title (harness-title-gate-assumes-a-static-title). So the disagreement stands, and the round trip that would answer the persistence question — menu → Ⓑ → title → Ⓐ → menu, is focus where you left it or reset? — has still never been run. tools/re-capture/focus_persistence.sh is written and ready for a harness that can reach the menu.

🟡 Initial focus is reproducible but not established as invariant. Both of my boots opened on TUTORIAL, and both used boot_menu.sh. The run recorded in menu-state-in-memory.md reached EXTRAS with four downs from the main menu, which only works from NEW GAME. Either the harness path matters or something persists. Do not hardcode TUTORIAL without re-testing it; what is solid is that the menu does not open on the top item in this harness.

Q4 — where each button goes

Measured by driving: focus the item, press Ⓐ, read the screen's own title.

button screen it opens evidence GamePart id
NEW GAME not tested
LOAD GAME the save-slot list, LOAD GAME / Current Storage q4-destinations.png left 🟡 3 GP_LOAD
TUTORIAL the lesson list, TUTORIAL, Level 1 / Level 2 same, middle 🟡 25 GP_TUTORIAL
OPTIONS OPTIONS — GAME / CONTROL / SOUND / SCREEN SETTINGS / BACK same, right 🟡 8 GP_OPTIONS
EXTRAS GP_TITLE.pak build 6 — MISSION SELECT / MOVIE THEATER / BACK ui-title-build-map.md 🟡 5 GP_EXTRAS
EXTRAS ▸ MISSION SELECT the stage list + Wide Area Space Map — 8 rows visible of 16, and rows below the first are locked on a fresh save (below) mission-select-stage01-only.png 🟡 7 GP_MISSION_SELECT
EXTRAS ▸ MOVIE THEATER not tested 🟡 6 GP_MOVIE_THEATER

Say which, as the gate asks. The screen each button opens is measured — I pressed the button and read the title off the framebuffer. The GamePart id is not measured: it is the entry of the decoded 29-id table at .rdata 0x820A1630 (challenge-mission-gate.md §3) whose name matches the screen I saw. The table is decoded; the binding of a button to an entry in it is a name match I made by eye. The port should treat these ids as authored.

Worth noting that the ids and the paks are not one-to-one: GP_EXTRAS is id 5 with no pak of its own — its artwork is a build inside GP_TITLE.pak.

NEW GAME was deliberately not pressed. Ⓐ on it leads to a standing black-screen hang that ends the run (ui-paint-order-third-permutation.md), and this iteration needed the session. It is the one destination still unmeasured.

🔴 The "cheap way to finish this" was a dead route — WITHDRAWN 2026-08-29

This section used to say: 0x828A690C holds a live screen id (1 title, 3 main menu, 4 extras) and 0x828F38AC the cursor; read them while pressing Ⓐ and the transition becomes a measurement, under --gpu=null with no screenshots.

Do not do that. Those words are monotonic counters, not state. menu-state-in-memory.md withdrew that identity on the same day it was published — driving deep and then pressing Ⓑ three times sends the "cursor" 36 → 38 → 40 → 41, and a cursor returns when you go back. The values match across runs because the same key sequence produces the same count, not because 3 means main menu. With the sign-in fix the sequence runs 3 → 5, skipping 4 entirely, so "4 = extras" was never a screen at all.

This page kept recommending the route for three days after the page it cited had killed it. ⚠️ A cross-reference is not a citation unless you re-read the target — the two documents disagreed in the corpus and either would have been believed on its own.

What those words are still good for: all three advance if and only if the game responds to input, and are stable when it does not. Read them as "did the game react?", never as "which screen is this?". Screen identity still has to come off the framebuffer.

So a measured button→GamePart-id binding remains unfinished, and for the reason it always was: no screen/state enum has been located in guest memory. The ids in the table below stay a name match.

NEW GAME — measured 2026-08-28, and it is not a hang

The one destination this page could not test has been driven. Ⓐ on NEW GAME does not hang. It opens two more menus first:

NEW GAME  ->  DIFFICULTY  ->  SELECT DATA  ->  guest crash
  • DIFFICULTYEASY / NORMAL / HARD / BACK, footer Ⓐ : OK Ⓑ : Back, opening focused on NORMAL (capture). It sat unchanged for 90 s with the emulator healthy — a menu waiting for input, which is exactly what "a standing hang" looks like to a screenshot loop that never presses anything.
  • Ⓐ on NORMALSELECT DATA, a save-slot picker headed Current Storage: Dummy HDD, prompting to pick a file for the auto-save.
  • Then the guest throws, and Xenia pauses with PC: 0x82307128 (capture).

That crash is already in the corpus and is not new: 0x82307128 is inside sub_823070B0, the cache-manager STL erase documented in title-crash-stl-tree.md, whose trigger is an incomplete on-disc shader/code cache — not the menu path. The corpus also already holds captures/select-data-crash.png.

So Q4's last row closes as measured:

button screen it opens
NEW GAME DIFFICULTY (then SELECT DATA)

🟡 The GamePart ids for these two are unmeasured, like the rest — 24 GP_DIALOG and 3 GP_LOAD / 2 GP_SELECT_STORAGE are name-match candidates and nothing more.

Initial focus — six data points now, and it still varies

This boot opened the main menu on NEW GAME. Running tally across four boots of the same harness: TUTORIAL, TUTORIAL, NEW GAME, NEW GAME. Unchanged conclusion: do not hardcode it.

Two more, 2026-08-29, and the split is now even. A drive that pressed Ⓐ with no d-pad movement ended in a tutorial mission (+0.960 against tutorial-mission-reached-then-crash.png), so that boot opened on TUTORIAL. A later boot read NEW GAME from a focus detector on the first menu frame.

Tally: TUTORIAL ×3, NEW GAME ×3. Six boots, same harness, no other item ever seen. ⚠️ It is not uniform across the five buttons — only these two occur — which is a constraint on whatever selects it, and something a future explanation has to account for. Still do not hardcode it, and note that newgame_path.sh's "NEW GAME is the first item so no d-pad is needed" is wrong half the time — see s00a-drive-blocked-by-focus.md.

The NEW GAME path completes — the SELECT DATA crash is state, not path

A second run of the same path, 2026-08-28, did not crash:

NEW GAME → DIFFICULTY → (Ⓐ on NORMAL) → SELECT DATA → (Ⓐ on a slot) → a movie plays

The previous run's throw at PC 0x82307128 is therefore not inherent to this menu path — the same six presses got through it. That is consistent with the trigger title-crash-stl-tree.md already names (an incomplete on-disc cache) and with nothing about NEW GAME. 🟡 n = 1 either way; do not read it as "fixed".

Worth recording because the first observation could easily have hardened into "the new-game path crashes", which is what "A on NEW GAME hangs" had already become once.


Attempted claim: this page's row "Ⓑ on the main menu goes to the title, which re-draws PRESS Ⓐ BUTTON after a beat".

Why this row and not another. It is one of only two rows in the Q5 table with an empty evidence cell (the other is "Ⓑ on the title → nothing"); every row that cites a capture cites one. And it is a rule the port will build on directly — it is the only way out of the main menu.

The measurement — whole-frame colour test for the pad-glyph discs, run by tools/re-capture/footer_and_locked_rows.py against the committed captures:

capture Ⓐ glyph px Ⓑ glyph px
live-main-menu.png 438 0
live-main-menu-options-focused.png 438 0
live-extras.png 440 514
difficulty-screen.png 438 518

The control passes twice over. The same detector, unchanged, finds the red Ⓑ on the two screens that visibly have one; and the count is 438/438/440/438 across all four, i.e. the same glyph asset at the same size on every screen — so a Ⓑ of that family would have been ~450520 px and cannot have fallen under a threshold. The negative is over the whole frame, not a guessed footer band: live-main-menu.png contains zero red-glyph pixels anywhere.

So the main menu's legend reads ⊙ : Select Ⓐ : OK where every submenu reads ⊙ : Select Ⓐ : OK Ⓑ : Back.

Verdict: the claim SURVIVES, at reduced confidence, and the row is downgraded to 🟡. A legend is not behaviour — a game may accept an unadvertised Ⓑ — so an absent glyph cannot refute a press that was actually observed. But:

  • the observation has no capture behind it, and it is now the only Q5 row contradicted by the game's own on-screen text;
  • there is a named confound: the title-side screens auto-return on idle, and "I pressed Ⓑ and ended up at the title, which drew PRESS Ⓐ BUTTON after a beat" is also exactly what an idle timeout looks like to an observer who does not hold the two apart. The corpus documents that timeout at ~810 s (boot-config-and-gamepart-registry.md).

What would settle it: press Ⓑ on the main menu and read 0x828A690C, the live screen id (1 title, 3 main menu, 4 extras) — a transition inside a second is a Ⓑ, one at ~810 s regardless of the press is the timeout. Cheap, and it needs no screenshots.

🔴 Not runnable here. This container has no disc and no ISO, so there is no oracle at all — see capture-harness-status.md.

For the port: Ⓑ from the main menu to the title is measured, single observation, uncited, and unadvertised by the game. Implement it — it is the only exit — but treat it as authored rather than transcribed, and do not also build the idle-return on the assumption that the two are distinct until someone has separated them.


MISSION SELECT: the cursor was stuck because the stages were locked

Measured 2026-08-29 from committed captures, no disc needed. Settles the ⚠️ open in ../game/navigation.md: "sixteen d-pad presses never left Stage 01 — whether that is because only one stage was unlocked, or because the list is driven some other way, is unknown".

The stage list has three label brightnesses, not two, and that is what discriminates. Sampling the label strip (x 190…320) of each of the 8 visible rows, 95th percentile of luminance:

capture row 1 rows 28
mission-select-stage01-only.png 254 104
mission-select-all-story-unlocked.png 254 183
mission-select-ends-at-stage16.png 183 183 ×6, then 254 on row 8
  • 254 = focused (the row carrying the spinning focus ring)
  • 183 = unlocked, not focused
  • 104 = locked

The all-unlocked capture is the control: it holds row 1 focused at the identical 254 while rows 28 move 104 → 183 as one uniform step. So the dim rows in the Stage01-only capture are not "unfocused"; unfocused is 183, and they are 79 levels below it.

And the cursor does move when they are unlocked. In mission-select-ends-at-stage16.png the list has scrolled to show Stage09…16, the scrollbar thumb is at the bottom, and the focus ring is on Stage16 — the last row. Locked list: 16 presses, no movement. Unlocked list: the cursor reaches the end.

rows visible at once 8
list length 16 (Stage01Stage16; the scrollbar bottoms out at 16)
why 16 presses did nothing every row below the first was locked

⚠️ Reach. This is a still image, so it says the cursor reached Stage16, not how it got there and not whether the list wraps — the scroll thumb bottoming out at row 16 is consistent with either. Whether a locked row is skipped or simply unreachable is likewise not separated: with only row 1 unlocked the two are the same observation.