re: the reactive-chatter rule table behind ORDOR_SQUADRON_EXTENDED
864 records = 144 rule tables per language pack x 6. One schema for all 9216 event records; MessageCount*2 == positional count with zero mismatches. Named 136/144 by two independent routes that agree as sets. 2388/2405 message ids join the settled sound-cue table. Corrects squadron-orders.md: the executable misspells all four SQUADRON entries of the 0x820AEEB0 enum as ORDOR_, and the disc data matches. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01PMRJjbxLqZtsb5Vb7KunPE
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in **where** it fires, not whether, so there is no menu route around it. See
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[`title-crash-stl-tree.md`](title-crash-stl-tree.md) for the end-to-end
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measurement and for what has been ruled out (`--mem_watch=false`, twice).
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---
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## ✅ 2026-08-27 — `ORDOR_SQUADRON_EXTENDED` opened: the reactive-chatter rule table
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The biggest unopened record name in the 3 496-name census (**864 records**) is a
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record in the **chatter rule table**: 144 objects per language pack × 6 packs.
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Write-up: [`structures/preset-message-rules.md`](structures/preset-message-rules.md);
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artefact `data/preset-messages.txt`; regenerator
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`tools/re-capture/preset_messages.py`.
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**Docs checked before claiming anything** — `squadron-orders.md`,
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`sound-cue-table.md`, `cutscene-message-table.md`, `ixud-localised-text.md`,
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`isl-message-dialogue-link.md`, `movie-subtitles.md`, `mission-phase-deployment.md`,
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`mission-phase-membership.md`. Two of them own parts of this:
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* `ixud-localised-text.md` owns "`PresetMessage_*` is reactive combat chatter
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keyed by speaker class", and `mission-phase-deployment.md` owns the route in
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(`UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` → `PresetMessage_Phase1/2/3`). **What neither says**
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is what is inside the table.
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* `cutscene-message-table.md` owns the `Generic`+`Message_NNN` layout for the 32
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cutscene objects per pack. **What it does not say** is that the same layout
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carries **137 more** objects per pack for in-mission chatter. Control: of 273
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`PresetMessage_*` names that hit an IDXD entry, 136 are rule tables and 137 are
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message tables — the prefix names two different shapes.
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✅ **One schema, no variants.** All 9 216 event records (144 × 64) carry the same
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seven named fields — `EffectiveTime, Interval, Priority, Probability,
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MessageCount, IntervalFluctuation, Pattern` — then positional `(message id,
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Yes/No)` pairs. **`MessageCount · 2 == positional count` in 9 216/9 216, zero
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mismatches**, which is what pins the pairing.
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✅ **Named twice, independently, with the same answer.** Harvested
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`PresetMessage_*` strings hashed under `message\` → 136/144; the
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`PresetMessage_Phase1/2/3` declarations of the 22 `UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl`
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tables → 136/144; **the two routes name the same set** (set identity, not a
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matching count).
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✅ **Joins to the settled cue table**: 2 388 of 2 405 distinct message ids
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resolve (99.3 %) through `sound-cue-table.md`'s index.
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⚠️ **A trap that doc had already paid for, and I walked into it anyway.**
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Rewriting `MSG_`→`VOICE_` unconditionally scores 2 353/2 405, and the 52 misses
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looked like a finding ("lines with no recording"). 44 of them were a naming
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artefact: `sound-cue-table.md` states that a name already carrying `VOICE_` keeps
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the one it has. Applying the documented exception gives 2 388/2 405. Reading the
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owning doc caught this *after* the first write-up was drafted — the earlier grep
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found the ownership, but the rule inside it still had to be read.
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✅ **Correction to `squadron-orders.md`** — it rendered the `0x820AEEB0` enum as
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twelve `ORDER_*` names. The executable's own strings misspell all four SQUADRON
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entries as **`ORDOR_*`**, and the disc data carries the identical misspelling,
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which is how the two sides join. That doc's 🔴 "this is a UI/comms axis, not the
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order classes" now has its explanation: the twelve are bark *events*.
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❔ **Not settled.** What the seven numeric fields mean (schema only, not
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measured against the running game); the `Yes`/`No` element of each pair; which of
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the 49 `Sperkers` speakers is a wingman (the "13 tables voice every player-facing
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event" partition is a count, not a verified roster). 🟡 **8 of the 144 rule
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tables are named by neither route** — nothing on the disc declares them.
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`UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` exists for 22 of the 28 stages and the six missing are
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exactly **S18–S23, the tutorials** (same set as the missing `AIParams_SNN.tbl`),
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so tutorial chatter is the plausible reading — but there is no tutorial
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`UnitMessageSet` to confirm it, so it stays a reading.
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@@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ files, which is how the same ground got covered twice.
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| [`structures/sound-pak-contents.md`](structures/sound-pak-contents.md) | Census of `sound.pak`, and the limit of the leading-region rule | ✅ CONFIRMED, 5 135/5 135 names hash into the TOC, **9 519/9 519** entries accounted for, and a full 4 114-bank manifest (408.3 min of audio) computed from PsuedoBytesPerSec without decoding; ⚠️ leading-region rule holds for 1 571/4 382 eng and 0/5 100 jpn |
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| [`structures/sound-cue-table.md`](structures/sound-cue-table.md) | The cue index in `tables.pak` — message id -> cue -> sound id -> `.slb` bank | ✅ CONFIRMED, 1 326/1 338 script message ids bind to a bank; SOUNDS and FILES agree on the same 12 absentees, 0 orphan files |
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| [`structures/cutscene-message-table.md`](structures/cutscene-message-table.md) | Cutscene dialogue — speaker, portrait, on-screen seconds, audio cue per page | ✅ CONFIRMED, field count = 9·PageCount+2 for all 7 PageCounts, 1 252/1 252 caption keys match, 138 ids close both ways |
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| [`structures/preset-message-rules.md`](structures/preset-message-rules.md) | The reactive-chatter rule table — 64 events, the (message, Yes/No) pair payload, the `Sperkers` roster | ✅ CONFIRMED, MessageCount·2 == positional count in 9 216/9 216; two independent naming routes agree on the same 136/144; 2 388/2 405 message ids bind to a cue |
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| [`structures/isl-mission-timer.md`](structures/isl-mission-timer.md) | The mission timer — two sequential countdowns, not a limit and a warning | ✅ CONFIRMED — read from `sub_822639B8`; the threshold reading is |
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| [`structures/archive-naming.md`](structures/archive-naming.md) | Which archives the disc can name — 100% for menu paks, **0.0%** for the six 2D paks and `GP_READY_ROOM` | ✅ CONFIRMED — 6027 names × 16 prefixes, bimodal |
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| [`structures/hud-config.md`](structures/hud-config.md) | The in-game HUD configuration — 16 records, 419 asset paths, and a per-stage `ResourceTable` | ✅ CONFIRMED — 0 of 419 config paths resolve as pak entries |
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309
docs/re/data/preset-messages.txt
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docs/re/data/preset-messages.txt
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# Reactive combat-chatter rule tables (regenerated by preset_messages.py)
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rule tables in GP_MAIN_GAME_E.pak : 144 of 1004 IDXD entries
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per language pack : {'GP_MAIN_GAME_D.pak': 144, 'GP_MAIN_GAME_E.pak': 144, 'GP_MAIN_GAME_F.pak': 144, 'GP_MAIN_GAME_I.pak': 144, 'GP_MAIN_GAME_J.pak': 144, 'GP_MAIN_GAME_S.pak': 144}
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total across the disc : 864
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distinct record-name tuples : 1
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records per table : 65 (64 events + Sperkers)
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distinct named-field schemas : 1
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x9216 EffectiveTime, Interval, Priority, Probability, MessageCount, IntervalFluctuation, Pattern
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MessageCount*2 == positional count: 9216/9216 (mismatches 0)
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second-of-pair values : {'No': 8940, 'Yes': 388}
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the 64 event records, and how many of the 144 tables give each one lines:
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ATTACK_IS_AVOIDED 114
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ATTACK_SUCCEEDED 114
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AVOIDED_BY_PLAYER 50
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AVOIDED_PLAYER_ATTACK 15
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AVOID_ATTACK 118
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COUNTER 114
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COUNTER_TO_PLAYER 45
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DAMAGED 124
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DAMAGED_BY_PLAYER_50_30 0
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DAMAGED_BY_PLAYER_GREATER_50 128
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DAMAGED_BY_PLAYER_LESS_30 127
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DAMAGED_TO_PLAYER 50
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EXTENDED 95
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EXTENDED_BY_PLAYER 86
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FOUND 111
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FOUND_PLAYER 45
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HP_LESS_10 121
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HP_LESS_30 0
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HP_LESS_50 121
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KILLED 82
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KILLED_BY_PLAYER 96
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KILL_PLAYER 2
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KILL_UNIT 114
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LOCKON_1 13
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LOCKON_10 13
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LOCKON_11 13
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LOCKON_12 13
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LOCKON_2 13
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LOCKON_3 13
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LOCKON_4 13
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LOCKON_5 13
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LOCKON_6 13
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LOCKON_7 13
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LOCKON_8 13
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LOCKON_9 13
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LOCKON_DOWN 13
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LOCKON_UP 13
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LOST_BRIDGE_BY_PLAYER 18
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LOST_SHIELD_BY_PLAYER 18
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LOST_THRUSTER_BY_PLAYER 18
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LOST_TURRET_BY_PLAYER 18
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ORDER_SQUAD_ATTACK 7
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ORDER_SQUAD_COVER 7
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ORDER_SQUAD_EXTENDED 7
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ORDER_SQUAD_FORMATION 7
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ORDER_WINGMAN_ATTACK 13
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ORDER_WINGMAN_COVER 13
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ORDER_WINGMAN_EXTENDED 13
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ORDER_WINGMAN_FORMATION 13
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ORDOR_SQUADRON_ATTACK 7
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ORDOR_SQUADRON_COVER 7
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ORDOR_SQUADRON_EXTENDED 7
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ORDOR_SQUADRON_FORMATION 7
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PLAYER_AMMO_LESS_00 13
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PLAYER_AMMO_LESS_10 13
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PLAYER_AMMO_LESS_40 13
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PLAYER_HP_LESS_10 13
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PLAYER_HP_LESS_30 13
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PLAYER_HP_LESS_50 13
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RETURNED 0
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SHIELD_DOWNED 61
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SHIELD_DOWNED_BY_PLAYER 46
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TALK 0
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TM_TO_PLAYER 0
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Sperkers roster: 49 distinct speakers; sizes {0: 3, 1: 84, 2: 37, 3: 4, 4: 6, 5: 1, 6: 1, 7: 2, 8: 1, 9: 2, 10: 2, 11: 1}
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CharacterELLEN 19
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CharacterCARL 15
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CharacterGENE 15
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CharacterSANDRA 13
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CharacterKATANA 13
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CharacterBILLY 13
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CharacterANTONIUS 13
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CharacterRAYMOND 12
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CharacterNATALIE 10
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CharacterYOJI 10
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CharacterTCAFOPA 9
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CharacterTCAFOPB 8
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CharacterCRICHTON 8
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CharacterTCAFA 8
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CharacterTCAFB 8
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CharacterADANPLA 6
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CharacterADANPLB 6
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CharacterADANPLC 6
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CharacterTCAFC 6
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CharacterADANOPB 5
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CharacterADANOPA 5
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CharacterMARGRAS 5
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CharacterADANPLD 4
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CharacterADANPLE 4
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CharacterADANPLF 4
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CharacterADANA 4
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CharacterADANB 4
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CharacterADANC 4
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CharacterSHIPSQUIRE1 4
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CharacterWAYNE 3
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CharacterHOWARD 3
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CharacterSHIPLADY1 3
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CharacterIAN 3
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CharacterRUSSELL 3
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CharacterVIOLETA 3
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CharacterTCAFPLA 2
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CharacterTCAFPLB 2
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CharacterTASKENT 2
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CharacterHIGGINS 1
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CharacterADANCOMMANDER 1
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CharacterTCAFSUPPLY 1
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CharacterVIEIRA 1
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CharacterTCAFMIRANDA 1
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CharacterADANETERNAL 1
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CharacterADANMASSIVE 1
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CharacterTCAFOLYMPUS 1
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CharacterMARGRAS2 1
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CharacterADANCAMAEL 1
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CharacterADANMETATRON 1
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distinct message ids : 2405
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resolved in tables.pak SOUNDS : 2388 (99.3%)
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unresolved : 17
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by family: {'ADAN': 4, 'ADPL': 3, 'RHIN': 1, 'VOICE': 9}
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MSG_ADAN_569
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MSG_ADAN_668
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MSG_ADAN_788
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MSG_ADAN_789
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MSG_ADPL_045
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MSG_ADPL_046
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MSG_ADPL_047
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MSG_RHIN_341
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MSG_VOICE_C_286
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MSG_VOICE_D_400
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MSG_VOICE_D_419
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MSG_VOICE_D_443
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MSG_VOICE_D_444
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MSG_VOICE_D_445
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MSG_VOICE_D_446
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MSG_VOICE_D_447
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MSG_VOICE_D_449
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naming route 1 (any harvested PresetMessage_ string): 136/144
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naming route 2 (UnitMessageSet_S* declarations) : 136/144
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the two routes agree on the same set : True
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UnitMessageSet_S* tables present: 22 of 28 (S01 S02 S03 S04 S05 S06 S07 S08 S09 S10 S11 S12 S13 S14 S15 S16 S24 S25 S26 S27 S28 S29)
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missing: S18 S19 S20 S21 S22 S23
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distinct declared PresetMessage tables: 137
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CONTROL — PresetMessage_* names that hit an IDXD entry but are NOT rule tables: 137
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their record-name families: {('Generic', 'Message_'): 134, ('Generic',): 3}
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rule tables, by name:
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0xde14f001 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_Camael.tbl
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0x31092781 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_Commander.tbl
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0x660be19b message\PresetMessage_ADAN_Eternal.tbl
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0x4de6f4ce message\PresetMessage_ADAN_FleetAA.tbl
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0x4eed1dce message\PresetMessage_ADAN_FleetAB.tbl
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0x4e101fed message\PresetMessage_ADAN_FleetBA.tbl
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0x4f1648ed message\PresetMessage_ADAN_FleetBB.tbl
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0x4f3944e3 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_FleetCA.tbl
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0x503f6de3 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_FleetCB.tbl
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0x7d898a7a message\PresetMessage_ADAN_Glance_S07-2.tbl
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0x733ffa0f message\PresetMessage_ADAN_Massive.tbl
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0xe5b45769 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_Metatron.tbl
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0x50a3be19 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_ShipA_01.tbl
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0xe41a87df message\PresetMessage_ADAN_ShipA_02_S12-1.tbl
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0x5197392f message\PresetMessage_ADAN_ShipB_01.tbl
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0xe5767fd1 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_ShipB_01_S03-2.tbl
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0x528ab445 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_ShipC_01.tbl
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0xe991cee2 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_ShipC_02_S15-1.tbl
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0xabb657f0 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plAB_S01-1.tbl
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0xac95b821 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plAC_S01-1.tbl
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0x494882e2 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plA_S01-1.tbl
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0xadf51dd8 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plBC_S01-1.tbl
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0x4a27e313 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plB_S01-1.tbl
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0x4b074344 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plC_S01-1.tbl
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0x1ced0fc8 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plDEF_S15-1.tbl
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0xb5cae6f3 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plDE_S03-3.tbl
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0xb6aa4724 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plDF_S03-3.tbl
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0x503eda97 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plD_S03-3.tbl
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0xb709b304 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plEF_S03-3.tbl
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0x511e3ac8 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plE_S03-3.tbl
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0x52fd94d0 message\PresetMessage_ADAN_plF_S03-3.tbl
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0xa6e5b0b5 message\PresetMessage_Acropolis_01_S02-1.tbl
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0xac82d3e4 message\PresetMessage_Acropolis_02_S07-1.tbl
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0xa871f99c message\PresetMessage_Acropolis_03_S11-1.tbl
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0x4bf26dc4 message\PresetMessage_Antonius_01_S01-2.tbl
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0x4cf19786 message\PresetMessage_Antonius_02_S02-1.tbl
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0x50034271 message\PresetMessage_Antonius_03_S03-3.tbl
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0x536e1ae6 message\PresetMessage_Antonius_04_S07-1.tbl
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0x4f5d409e message\PresetMessage_Antonius_05_S11-1.tbl
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0xfad127f0 message\PresetMessage_Antonius_06_S28.tbl
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0xf66565a9 message\PresetMessage_Billy_01_S01-2.tbl
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0xf7648f6b message\PresetMessage_Billy_02_S02-1.tbl
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0xfb76342d message\PresetMessage_Billy_03_S03-3.tbl
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0xfee10ca2 message\PresetMessage_Billy_04_S07-1.tbl
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0xfad0325a message\PresetMessage_Billy_05_S11-1.tbl
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0xa51488ed message\PresetMessage_Billy_06_S28.tbl
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0x7ce33a27 message\PresetMessage_Carl_01_S01-2.tbl
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0x7de263e9 message\PresetMessage_Carl_02_S02-1.tbl
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0x81f408ab message\PresetMessage_Carl_03_S03-3.tbl
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0x845ee749 message\PresetMessage_Carl_04_S07-1.tbl
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0xe9b7a641 message\PresetMessage_Ellen_01_S01-1.tbl
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0xebbcf903 message\PresetMessage_Ellen_02_S02-1.tbl
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0xefce9dc5 message\PresetMessage_Ellen_03_S03-3.tbl
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0xf2397c63 message\PresetMessage_Ellen_04_S07-1.tbl
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0xf77113b6 message\PresetMessage_Ellen_05_S09-3.tbl
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0x99745ef7 message\PresetMessage_Ellen_06_S28.tbl
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0x79eb166f message\PresetMessage_Gene_01_S02-1.tbl
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0x7dfcbb31 message\PresetMessage_Gene_02_S03-3.tbl
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0x806799cf message\PresetMessage_Gene_03_S07-1.tbl
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0x859f3122 message\PresetMessage_Gene_04_S09-3.tbl
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0x640004b1 message\PresetMessage_Howard_02_S06-1.tbl
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0x4bb45c70 message\PresetMessage_Katana_02_S01-2.tbl
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0x4cb38632 message\PresetMessage_Katana_03_S02-1.tbl
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0x4e990f63 message\PresetMessage_Katana_04_S02-2.tbl
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0x51a48b25 message\PresetMessage_Katana_05_S03-3.tbl
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0x540f69c3 message\PresetMessage_Katana_06_S07-1.tbl
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0x5840d816 message\PresetMessage_Katana_07_S09-2.tbl
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0x5a266147 message\PresetMessage_Katana_08_S09-3.tbl
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0x51975723 message\PresetMessage_Katana_09_S10-1.tbl
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0x4a425a04 message\PresetMessage_Katana_10_S11-1.tbl
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0x4c47acc6 message\PresetMessage_Katana_11_S12-1.tbl
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0x4e4cff88 message\PresetMessage_Katana_12_S13-1.tbl
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0x517844db message\PresetMessage_Katana_13_S15-1.tbl
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0xf93b44ee message\PresetMessage_Katana_15_S28.tbl
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0x632e5d87 message\PresetMessage_Lady1.tbl
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0x64348687 message\PresetMessage_Lady2.tbl
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0x653aaf87 message\PresetMessage_Lady3.tbl
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0xca38072d message\PresetMessage_Margras_01_S03-3.tbl
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0xcb3730ef message\PresetMessage_Margras_02_S04-2.tbl
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0xc86c12c9 message\PresetMessage_Margras_03_S10-1.tbl
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0xcfc8c66f message\PresetMessage_Margras_05_S14-2.tbl
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0xd0c7f031 message\PresetMessage_Margras_06_S15-1.tbl
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0xd532e9aa message\PresetMessage_Raymond_02_S02-1.tbl
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0xd9448e6c message\PresetMessage_Raymond_03_S03-3.tbl
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0x81791b91 message\PresetMessage_Raymond_04_S28.tbl
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0x131f8802 message\PresetMessage_Raymond_S01-1.tbl
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0x53b2e415 message\PresetMessage_Sandra_01_S01-2.tbl
|
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0x54b20dd7 message\PresetMessage_Sandra_02_S02-1.tbl
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0x58c3b299 message\PresetMessage_Sandra_03_S03-3.tbl
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0x5b2e9137 message\PresetMessage_Sandra_04_S07-1.tbl
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0x571db6ef message\PresetMessage_Sandra_05_S11-1.tbl
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0x02351472 message\PresetMessage_Sandra_06_S28.tbl
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0x52223719 message\PresetMessage_Squire1.tbl
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0x53286019 message\PresetMessage_Squire2.tbl
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0x542e8919 message\PresetMessage_Squire3.tbl
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0x5534b219 message\PresetMessage_Squire4.tbl
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0x9bfa033e message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetAA.tbl
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0x9c003267 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetAB.tbl
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0x9c232e5d message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetBA.tbl
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0xf021197c message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetShipC.tbl
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0x64ecd655 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_AcropolisGuard.tbl
|
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0x4f33ea2e message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Caliban.tbl
|
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0x57a53d3b message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetAA.tbl
|
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0x58ab663b message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetAB.tbl
|
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0x58ce6231 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetBA.tbl
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0x59f78727 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetCA.tbl
|
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0x5afdb027 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetCB.tbl
|
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0xa6b0cfde message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Janus.tbl
|
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0x616c4182 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Miranda.tbl
|
||||
0x9ec12cb7 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Olympus.tbl
|
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0x6a18ba6a message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Pandora.tbl
|
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0x9aafd76a message\PresetMessage_TCAF_ShipA.tbl
|
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0x9bb6006a message\PresetMessage_TCAF_ShipB.tbl
|
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0x9cbc296a message\PresetMessage_TCAF_ShipC.tbl
|
||||
0x326328f2 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Supply.tbl
|
||||
0x22beec7a message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Vinson.tbl
|
||||
0xb704e242 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_plAB_S02-2.tbl
|
||||
0x554cc1d2 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_plA_S02-2.tbl
|
||||
0x562c2203 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_plB_S02-2.tbl
|
||||
0xd74c69b3 message\PresetMessage_Taskent_01_S03-3.tbl
|
||||
0xd84b9375 message\PresetMessage_Taskent_02_S04-2.tbl
|
||||
0xd4edb4dc message\PresetMessage_Violeta_01_S08-1.tbl
|
||||
0xd7f9309e message\PresetMessage_Violeta_02_S09-2.tbl
|
||||
0xd0964834 message\PresetMessage_Violeta_03_S11-1.tbl
|
||||
0x027f9fba message\PresetMessage_Wayne_01_S05-2.tbl
|
||||
0x037ec97c message\PresetMessage_Wayne_02_S06-1.tbl
|
||||
0x02dfc6e7 message\PresetMessage_Wayne_03_S13-1.tbl
|
||||
0x9a44099c message\PresetMessage_Yoji_01_S06-2.tbl
|
||||
0x9b43335e message\PresetMessage_Yoji_02_S07-1.tbl
|
||||
0xa07acab1 message\PresetMessage_Yoji_03_S09-3.tbl
|
||||
0x5483c09d <unnamed>
|
||||
0x59d48b31 <unnamed>
|
||||
0x9d29575d <unnamed>
|
||||
0x9d4c5353 <unnamed>
|
||||
0x9e527c53 <unnamed>
|
||||
0xcde33d3e <unnamed>
|
||||
0xee14c77c <unnamed>
|
||||
0xef1af07c <unnamed>
|
||||
|
||||
unnamed rule tables: 8
|
||||
167
docs/re/structures/preset-message-rules.md
Normal file
167
docs/re/structures/preset-message-rules.md
Normal file
@@ -0,0 +1,167 @@
|
||||
# The reactive-chatter rule table
|
||||
|
||||
**✅ Settled 2026-08-27** (static; regenerator
|
||||
`tools/re-capture/preset_messages.py`, artefact
|
||||
[`data/preset-messages.txt`](../data/preset-messages.txt)).
|
||||
|
||||
The corpus already knew *that* `PresetMessage_*` is reactive combat chatter —
|
||||
[`ixud-localised-text.md`](ixud-localised-text.md) names the IXUD family
|
||||
("the bulk: reactive combat chatter keyed by speaker class") and
|
||||
[`mission-phase-deployment.md`](../mission-phase-deployment.md) found the link
|
||||
that reaches it (`message\UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` gives every crew a
|
||||
`PresetMessage_Phase1/2/3`). What neither says is **what is inside the table** —
|
||||
which events exist, what governs when a line fires, and how a line reaches a
|
||||
recording. That is this document.
|
||||
|
||||
## Two files per set
|
||||
|
||||
A chatter set is a **pair** of IDXD objects in each `dat/GP_MAIN_GAME_<lang>.pak`:
|
||||
|
||||
| name | role |
|
||||
|---|---|
|
||||
| `message\PresetMessage_<who>.tbl` | the **rule** table — this document |
|
||||
| `message\PresetMessage_<who>_msg.tbl` | the **message** table |
|
||||
|
||||
The `_msg` half is *not* new: it is exactly the record layout
|
||||
[`cutscene-message-table.md`](cutscene-message-table.md) settled for
|
||||
`MSG_DEMO_*` — a `Generic` count record plus `Message_NNN` records with `ID` /
|
||||
`PageCount` and 9 positional fields per page. What that document does not say is
|
||||
that the same layout carries **137 more objects per language pack** for
|
||||
in-mission chatter, against the 32 cutscene ones it counted. The control run
|
||||
confirms the split cleanly: of the 273 `PresetMessage_*` names that hit an IDXD
|
||||
entry, **136 are rule tables and 137 are `Generic`+`Message_NNN` message
|
||||
tables** (3 of those are `Generic`-only, i.e. empty).
|
||||
|
||||
## The rule table
|
||||
|
||||
**144 per language pack, 864 across the six `GP_MAIN_GAME_<lang>.pak`** — one
|
||||
identical count in each, and `ORDOR_SQUADRON_EXTENDED` (the misspelling is the
|
||||
game's, see below) is the largest single record name on the disc for exactly
|
||||
that reason.
|
||||
|
||||
Every one of the 144 has the **same 65 records**: 64 event records plus a
|
||||
`Sperkers` (sic) roster. One record-name tuple, no variants.
|
||||
|
||||
### Event records
|
||||
|
||||
All 9 216 event records (144 × 64) share **one** named-field schema, with no
|
||||
exceptions:
|
||||
|
||||
```
|
||||
EffectiveTime Interval Priority Probability MessageCount
|
||||
IntervalFluctuation Pattern
|
||||
```
|
||||
|
||||
After the seven named fields come the record's positional payload —
|
||||
[a record's unnamed positional fields are its payload] — in **pairs**:
|
||||
|
||||
(message id, Yes/No) e.g. ('MSG_BIRD_020', 'No')
|
||||
|
||||
`MessageCount` is the number of pairs, and that identity is **exact**:
|
||||
`MessageCount · 2 == positional-field count` in **9 216 of 9 216** records, zero
|
||||
mismatches. That is what pins the pairing. The second element of each pair is
|
||||
`No` 8 940 times and `Yes` 388 times; its meaning is not settled.
|
||||
|
||||
### The 64 events
|
||||
|
||||
The full census with per-event table counts is in the artefact. The shape of
|
||||
that census is itself informative:
|
||||
|
||||
* **Player-facing events are voiced only by the wingman tables.** Every
|
||||
`LOCKON_1..12`, `LOCKON_UP`, `LOCKON_DOWN`, `PLAYER_HP_LESS_10/30/50` and
|
||||
`PLAYER_AMMO_LESS_00/10/40` record carries lines in **exactly 13** of the 144
|
||||
tables — the same 13 as `ORDER_WINGMAN_{FORMATION,ATTACK,COVER,EXTENDED}`.
|
||||
* The squad/squadron order events carry lines in **7** tables each.
|
||||
* Generic combat events are near-universal: `DAMAGED_BY_PLAYER_GREATER_50` 128,
|
||||
`DAMAGED` 124, `HP_LESS_10` and `HP_LESS_50` 121 each.
|
||||
* **Five events are declared everywhere and populated nowhere** —
|
||||
`DAMAGED_BY_PLAYER_50_30`, `HP_LESS_30`, `RETURNED`, `TALK`, `TM_TO_PLAYER`
|
||||
have `MessageCount 0` in all 144 tables. They are slots the shipped data never
|
||||
uses.
|
||||
|
||||
Note the near-miss pairs that are *not* redundant: `HP_LESS_*` (the speaker's
|
||||
own hull) versus `PLAYER_HP_LESS_*`, and `AVOIDED_BY_PLAYER` versus
|
||||
`AVOIDED_PLAYER_ATTACK`. The `_PLAYER` half of each pair is the smaller
|
||||
population.
|
||||
|
||||
### `Sperkers`
|
||||
|
||||
The last record is a roster of speaker names as **field names** with empty
|
||||
values — `CharacterELLEN`, `CharacterADANCAMAEL`, … **49 distinct speakers**
|
||||
across the 144 tables. Most tables name one speaker (84 of 144); the rest name
|
||||
2–11, and three name none.
|
||||
|
||||
## The join to audio is the settled cue table
|
||||
|
||||
The pair's first element is a message id, and it resolves through the cue index
|
||||
[`sound-cue-table.md`](sound-cue-table.md) already documents — `MSG_` becomes
|
||||
`VOICE_`, then `SOUNDS` in `dat/tables.pak` gives the numeric id and `FILES` the
|
||||
`.slb` bank.
|
||||
|
||||
**2 388 of 2 405 distinct message ids resolve (99.3 %).** The 17 that do not
|
||||
are characterised, not swept up: 8 are ordinary four-letter-family ids
|
||||
(`MSG_ADAN_569/668/788/789`, `MSG_ADPL_045/046/047`, `MSG_RHIN_341`) and 9 are
|
||||
`MSG_VOICE_*`, seven of them the consecutive run `MSG_VOICE_D_443`…`_449`. A
|
||||
consecutive run with no recording reads as content cut late. All 17 are listed
|
||||
in the artefact.
|
||||
|
||||
⚠️ **The wrinkle in that doc is real and I walked into it.** Rewriting `MSG_` to
|
||||
`VOICE_` unconditionally gives `VOICE_VOICE_D_443`, which resolved only 2 353 of
|
||||
2 405 and would have been written up as "52 lines with no recording", with 44 of
|
||||
them a naming artefact. `sound-cue-table.md` states the exception explicitly —
|
||||
a name that already carries `VOICE_` keeps the one it has — and applying it
|
||||
moves the count to 2 388. Recorded here because the same trap is one line of
|
||||
code away in any port.
|
||||
|
||||
## Naming, by two independent routes that agree
|
||||
|
||||
The rule tables are pak entries keyed by `name_hash`, so they had to be named
|
||||
before any of this could be read.
|
||||
|
||||
1. **Harvested strings** — every `PresetMessage_*` string appearing anywhere in
|
||||
any IDXD object on the disc, hashed under the `message\` prefix: **136/144**.
|
||||
2. **Declarations** — the `PresetMessage_Phase1/2/3` values of the 22
|
||||
`message\UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` tables: **136/144**.
|
||||
|
||||
The two routes name **the same set** (verified as a set identity, not a matching
|
||||
count). Names are of the form
|
||||
`PresetMessage_<who>[_<NN>]_S<stage>-<phase>.tbl`, e.g.
|
||||
`PresetMessage_Ellen_03_S03-3.tbl`, `PresetMessage_ADAN_Camael.tbl` — so a set is
|
||||
scoped to a character *and* a stage-phase, which is what makes 144 of them.
|
||||
|
||||
### Residual, characterised
|
||||
|
||||
* **8 rule tables stay unnamed** and — this is the point — they are unnamed by
|
||||
*both* routes: nothing on the disc declares them. Their hashes are in the
|
||||
artefact.
|
||||
* `UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` exists for **22 of the 28 shipped stages**. The six
|
||||
missing are exactly **S18–S23, the tutorials**, which is the same set that has
|
||||
no `AIParams_SNN.tbl` ([`challenge-mission-gate.md`](challenge-mission-gate.md)).
|
||||
So the 8 undeclared tables are plausibly tutorial chatter, but that is a
|
||||
reading — no tutorial `UnitMessageSet` exists to confirm it.
|
||||
* The 22 stage tables declare **137** distinct `PresetMessage` sets against 136
|
||||
rule tables resolved, so one declared set has no rule table under the
|
||||
`message\` prefix.
|
||||
|
||||
## ✅ Correction to `squadron-orders.md`
|
||||
|
||||
That document renders the voice-line enum at `0x820AEEB0` as
|
||||
`ORDER_{WINGMAN,SQUAD,SQUADRON}_{FORMATION,ATTACK,COVER,EXTENDED}`. The
|
||||
executable's own strings are **not** uniform: the WINGMAN and SQUAD names are
|
||||
`ORDER_`, and all four SQUADRON names are misspelled **`ORDOR_`**. The disc data
|
||||
carries the identical misspelling, which is how the two sides were joined.
|
||||
|
||||
That document's 🔴 warning — that this enum is a UI/comms axis and is **not** the
|
||||
order-class enum — is **confirmed and now explained**: all twelve names are
|
||||
record names in this chatter rule table, i.e. they are the twelve *events*
|
||||
"a squadron order was issued", each with its own lines, priority and interval.
|
||||
They are triggers for barks, not order types.
|
||||
|
||||
## 🟡 Not settled
|
||||
|
||||
* What `EffectiveTime`, `Interval`, `IntervalFluctuation`, `Priority`,
|
||||
`Probability` and `Pattern` mean numerically — they are read here as a schema,
|
||||
not measured against the running game.
|
||||
* The `Yes`/`No` second element of each pair.
|
||||
* Which of the 49 speakers is a wingman — the "13 tables" partition above is a
|
||||
count, not a verified roster.
|
||||
@@ -57,11 +57,21 @@ as 🟡 rather than levelled up to match the other three.
|
||||
|
||||
## 🔴 A different enum that is NOT this
|
||||
|
||||
`sub_82320B48` selects a voice line from
|
||||
`ORDER_{WINGMAN,SQUAD,SQUADRON}_{FORMATION,ATTACK,COVER,EXTENDED}`
|
||||
(`0x820AEEB0`…). The names are tempting — ATTACK and COVER look like they should
|
||||
map onto the order classes — but there is **no evidence** they index the order
|
||||
types, and it is a UI/comms axis. Not connected; do not conflate them.
|
||||
`sub_82320B48` selects a voice line from twelve strings at `0x820AEEB0`…. Note
|
||||
the spelling, which is the game's own and matters because it is the join key:
|
||||
the WINGMAN and SQUAD names are `ORDER_`, and **all four SQUADRON names are
|
||||
misspelled `ORDOR_`** — `ORDOR_SQUADRON_{FORMATION,ATTACK,COVER,EXTENDED}`. (An
|
||||
earlier revision of this document rendered all twelve as `ORDER_`.)
|
||||
|
||||
The names are tempting — ATTACK and COVER look like they should map onto the
|
||||
order classes — but there is **no evidence** they index the order types, and it
|
||||
is a UI/comms axis. Not connected; do not conflate them.
|
||||
|
||||
**✅ Settled 2026-08-27, and the warning above holds.** All twelve are record
|
||||
names in the reactive-chatter rule table, carrying the same misspelling on the
|
||||
data side — see [`preset-message-rules.md`](preset-message-rules.md). They are
|
||||
the twelve *events* "a squadron order was issued", each with its own lines,
|
||||
priority and interval. Triggers for barks, not order types.
|
||||
|
||||
## 🟡 Not settled
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
Reference in New Issue
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