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re: all 144 chatter rule tables named; the undeclared 8 are NOT tutorial

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Three more naming routes: strip _msg from a message table (137/144, superset
of route 1, zero non-rule hits), predict the name from the Sperkers roster
(6/6, control 0/4), and sweep the naming grammar (1/144).  Union 144/144,
and every rule table has its _msg companion.

Refutes the reading left by 2c2af7a: the undeclared tables are two story-stage
tables and six TCAF fleet/ship tables, no tutorial content at all.

Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01PMRJjbxLqZtsb5Vb7KunPE
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@@ -4093,3 +4093,52 @@ tables are named by neither route** — nothing on the disc declares them.
exactly **S18–S23, the tutorials** (same set as the missing `AIParams_SNN.tbl`),
so tutorial chatter is the plausible reading — but there is no tutorial
`UnitMessageSet` to confirm it, so it stays a reading.
---
## ✅🔴 2026-08-27 — the 8 undeclared chatter rule tables: all named, and NOT tutorial
Continues the entry above. **144/144 rule tables are now named**, and the
reading I left in that entry is **refuted**.
**Two more naming routes, both cheap:**
* **Route 3 — strip `_msg`.** A message table's name gives its rule table's
name. **137/144**, a strict superset of route 1, and it hits **zero** entries
that are not rule tables. It adds `PresetMessage_Katana_14_S16-2.tbl`.
* **Route 5 — sweep the grammar.** `PresetMessage_<who>[_NN][_S<nn>-<p>].tbl`
over the 86 `<who>` tokens the other routes expose. Adds
`PresetMessage_Margras_04_S14-1.tbl`. **1/144.**
✅ **Route 4 — the roster predicts the name, 6 of 6.** Among the already-named
two-speaker tables the rule is transparent: `<FACTION>_Fleet<X><Y>` speaks
(`<FACTION>OP<Y>`, `<FACTION><X>`), and `TCAF_..Ship<X>` speaks (`ADANPL<X>`,
`TCAF<X>`). The six remaining unnamed tables are six **gaps in two series**.
Predicted from their rosters, then hashed: `TCAF_FleetBB`, `TCAF_17thFleetBB`,
`TCAF_17thFleetCA`, `TCAF_17thFleetCB`, `TCAF_17thFleetShipA`,
`TCAF_17thFleetShipB` — **6/6**. **Control:** four same-shaped names the series
does not contain (`TCAF_FleetCC`, `TCAF_17thFleetCC`, `TCAF_ShipA_01`,
`TCAF_17thFleetShipC_01`) score **0/4**, so it is not the case that any plausible
name lands on an unnamed slot.
🔴 **Refuted: "the undeclared tables are tutorial chatter."** It was the obvious
reading — `UnitMessageSet` exists for 22 of 28 stages and the six missing are
exactly S18–S23. But the eight are two **story**-stage tables (`Katana_14_S16-2`,
`Margras_04_S14-1`) and six TCAF fleet/ship tables carrying **no stage tag at
all**. Not one is a tutorial. Recorded rather than deleted: the inference from
"S18–S23 have no `UnitMessageSet`" to "the undeclared tables are theirs" skipped
the step of *looking at what is in them* — all six residuals speak `MSG_TCAF_*`
with TCAF fleet rosters.
✅ Also settled in the same sweep: **every one of the 144 rule tables has its
`_msg` companion present**, in all six language packs (the earlier count of 137
message tables was a count of *harvested names*, not of entries — six of the
eight have message tables whose names appear as strings nowhere).
What the tutorial evidence does support, narrowly: no rule table is tagged
`_S18`…`_S23` and the tutorials ship no `UnitMessageSet`, so on this evidence the
six tutorial missions have **no reactive chatter of their own**. That is a
smaller claim than the one it replaces.
❔ Still open from the entry above: what the seven numeric fields mean, the
`Yes`/`No` pair element, and which speakers are wingmen.

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| [`structures/sound-pak-contents.md`](structures/sound-pak-contents.md) | Census of `sound.pak`, and the limit of the leading-region rule | ✅ CONFIRMED, 5 135/5 135 names hash into the TOC, **9 519/9 519** entries accounted for, and a full 4 114-bank manifest (408.3 min of audio) computed from PsuedoBytesPerSec without decoding; ⚠️ leading-region rule holds for 1 571/4 382 eng and 0/5 100 jpn |
| [`structures/sound-cue-table.md`](structures/sound-cue-table.md) | The cue index in `tables.pak` — message id -> cue -> sound id -> `.slb` bank | ✅ CONFIRMED, 1 326/1 338 script message ids bind to a bank; SOUNDS and FILES agree on the same 12 absentees, 0 orphan files |
| [`structures/cutscene-message-table.md`](structures/cutscene-message-table.md) | Cutscene dialogue — speaker, portrait, on-screen seconds, audio cue per page | ✅ CONFIRMED, field count = 9·PageCount+2 for all 7 PageCounts, 1 252/1 252 caption keys match, 138 ids close both ways |
| [`structures/preset-message-rules.md`](structures/preset-message-rules.md) | The reactive-chatter rule table — 64 events, the (message, Yes/No) pair payload, the `Sperkers` roster | ✅ CONFIRMED, MessageCount·2 == positional count in 9 216/9 216; two independent naming routes agree on the same 136/144; 2 388/2 405 message ids bind to a cue |
| [`structures/preset-message-rules.md`](structures/preset-message-rules.md) | The reactive-chatter rule table — 64 events, the (message, Yes/No) pair payload, the `Sperkers` roster | ✅ CONFIRMED, MessageCount·2 == positional count in 9 216/9 216; five naming routes union to 144/144 (six names predicted from the speaker roster before hashing, control 0/4); 2 388/2 405 message ids bind to a cue |
| [`structures/isl-mission-timer.md`](structures/isl-mission-timer.md) | The mission timer — two sequential countdowns, not a limit and a warning | ✅ CONFIRMED — read from `sub_822639B8`; the threshold reading is |
| [`structures/archive-naming.md`](structures/archive-naming.md) | Which archives the disc can name — 100% for menu paks, **0.0%** for the six 2D paks and `GP_READY_ROOM` | ✅ CONFIRMED — 6027 names × 16 prefixes, bimodal |
| [`structures/hud-config.md`](structures/hud-config.md) | The in-game HUD configuration — 16 records, 419 asset paths, and a per-stage `ResourceTable` | ✅ CONFIRMED — 0 of 419 config paths resolve as pak entries |

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naming route 1 (any harvested PresetMessage_ string): 136/144
naming route 2 (UnitMessageSet_S* declarations) : 136/144
the two routes agree on the same set : True
naming route 3 (strip _msg from a message table) : 137/144
naming route 4 (predicted from the Sperkers roster) : 6/144
routes 1 and 2 agree on the same set : True
route 3 is a superset of route 1 : True
route 3 names nothing that is not a rule table : True
CONTROL — same-shaped names outside the series, hits : 0/4
naming route 5 (sweep of the grammar, 86 <who> tokens): 1/144
UNION of all five routes : 144/144
rule tables whose _msg companion is absent : 0
UnitMessageSet_S* tables present: 22 of 28 (S01 S02 S03 S04 S05 S06 S07 S08 S09 S10 S11 S12 S13 S14 S15 S16 S24 S25 S26 S27 S28 S29)
missing: S18 S19 S20 S21 S22 S23
distinct declared PresetMessage tables: 137
@@ -240,6 +248,7 @@ rule tables, by name:
0x4c47acc6 message\PresetMessage_Katana_11_S12-1.tbl
0x4e4cff88 message\PresetMessage_Katana_12_S13-1.tbl
0x517844db message\PresetMessage_Katana_13_S15-1.tbl
0x5483c09d message\PresetMessage_Katana_14_S16-2.tbl
0xf93b44ee message\PresetMessage_Katana_15_S28.tbl
0x632e5d87 message\PresetMessage_Lady1.tbl
0x64348687 message\PresetMessage_Lady2.tbl
@@ -247,6 +256,7 @@ rule tables, by name:
0xca38072d message\PresetMessage_Margras_01_S03-3.tbl
0xcb3730ef message\PresetMessage_Margras_02_S04-2.tbl
0xc86c12c9 message\PresetMessage_Margras_03_S10-1.tbl
0xcde33d3e message\PresetMessage_Margras_04_S14-1.tbl
0xcfc8c66f message\PresetMessage_Margras_05_S14-2.tbl
0xd0c7f031 message\PresetMessage_Margras_06_S15-1.tbl
0xd532e9aa message\PresetMessage_Raymond_02_S02-1.tbl
@@ -266,12 +276,18 @@ rule tables, by name:
0x9bfa033e message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetAA.tbl
0x9c003267 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetAB.tbl
0x9c232e5d message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetBA.tbl
0x9d29575d message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetBB.tbl
0x9d4c5353 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetCA.tbl
0x9e527c53 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetCB.tbl
0xee14c77c message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetShipA.tbl
0xef1af07c message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetShipB.tbl
0xf021197c message\PresetMessage_TCAF_17thFleetShipC.tbl
0x64ecd655 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_AcropolisGuard.tbl
0x4f33ea2e message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Caliban.tbl
0x57a53d3b message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetAA.tbl
0x58ab663b message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetAB.tbl
0x58ce6231 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetBA.tbl
0x59d48b31 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetBB.tbl
0x59f78727 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetCA.tbl
0x5afdb027 message\PresetMessage_TCAF_FleetCB.tbl
0xa6b0cfde message\PresetMessage_TCAF_Janus.tbl
@@ -297,13 +313,5 @@ rule tables, by name:
0x9a44099c message\PresetMessage_Yoji_01_S06-2.tbl
0x9b43335e message\PresetMessage_Yoji_02_S07-1.tbl
0xa07acab1 message\PresetMessage_Yoji_03_S09-3.tbl
0x5483c09d <unnamed>
0x59d48b31 <unnamed>
0x9d29575d <unnamed>
0x9d4c5353 <unnamed>
0x9e527c53 <unnamed>
0xcde33d3e <unnamed>
0xee14c77c <unnamed>
0xef1af07c <unnamed>
unnamed rule tables: 8
unnamed rule tables: 0

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@@ -113,35 +113,68 @@ a name that already carries `VOICE_` keeps the one it has — and applying it
moves the count to 2 388. Recorded here because the same trap is one line of
code away in any port.
## Naming, by two independent routes that agree
## Naming — five routes, and all 144 land
The rule tables are pak entries keyed by `name_hash`, so they had to be named
before any of this could be read.
before any of this could be read. Five routes, each an independent transform:
1. **Harvested strings** — every `PresetMessage_*` string appearing anywhere in
any IDXD object on the disc, hashed under the `message\` prefix: **136/144**.
2. **Declarations** — the `PresetMessage_Phase1/2/3` values of the 22
`message\UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` tables: **136/144**.
| route | source | named |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | any `PresetMessage_*` string appearing in any IDXD object, under `message\` | 136/144 |
| 2 | the `PresetMessage_Phase1/2/3` values of the 22 `UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` | 136/144 |
| 3 | strip `_msg` from a **message**-table name to get its rule table's name | 137/144 |
| 4 | predicted from the `Sperkers` roster (below) | 6/144 |
| 5 | sweep of the naming grammar over the 86 `<who>` tokens routes 1–4 expose | 1/144 |
| | **union** | **144/144** |
The two routes name **the same set** (verified as a set identity, not a matching
count). Names are of the form
`PresetMessage_<who>[_<NN>]_S<stage>-<phase>.tbl`, e.g.
`PresetMessage_Ellen_03_S03-3.tbl`, `PresetMessage_ADAN_Camael.tbl` — so a set is
Routes 1 and 2 name **the same set** (checked as a set identity, not a matching
count). Route 3 is a strict superset of route 1 and hits **no** entry that is not
a rule table. Every one of the 144 has its `_msg` companion present.
Names are of the form `PresetMessage_<who>[_<NN>][_S<stage>-<phase>].tbl`, e.g.
`PresetMessage_Ellen_03_S03-3.tbl`, `PresetMessage_ADAN_Camael.tbl` — a set is
scoped to a character *and* a stage-phase, which is what makes 144 of them.
### Residual, characterised
### ✅ The roster predicts the name
* **8 rule tables stay unnamed** and — this is the point — they are unnamed by
*both* routes: nothing on the disc declares them. Their hashes are in the
artefact.
* `UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` exists for **22 of the 28 shipped stages**. The six
missing are exactly **S18–S23, the tutorials**, which is the same set that has
no `AIParams_SNN.tbl` ([`challenge-mission-gate.md`](challenge-mission-gate.md)).
So the 8 undeclared tables are plausibly tutorial chatter, but that is a
reading — no tutorial `UnitMessageSet` exists to confirm it.
* The 22 stage tables declare **137** distinct `PresetMessage` sets against 136
rule tables resolved, so one declared set has no rule table under the
`message\` prefix.
Route 4 is the interesting one, because the prediction came first. Among the
tables already named, the two-speaker ones expose a transparent rule:
<FACTION>_Fleet<X><Y> speaks (<FACTION>OP<Y>, <FACTION><X>)
TCAF_..Ship<X> speaks (ADANPL<X>, TCAF<X>)
`TCAF_Fleet{AA,AB,BA,CA,CB}` and `TCAF_17thFleet{AA,AB,BA}` and
`TCAF_17thFleetShipC` are named; **six gaps in those series** were predicted from
the six unnamed tables' rosters and then hashed:
| roster | predicted name | result |
|---|---|---|
| `TCAFOPB`, `TCAFB` | `TCAF_FleetBB` | ✅ `0x59d48b31` |
| `TCAFOPB`, `TCAFB` | `TCAF_17thFleetBB` | ✅ `0x9d29575d` |
| `TCAFOPA`, `TCAFC` | `TCAF_17thFleetCA` | ✅ `0x9d4c5353` |
| `TCAFOPB`, `TCAFC` | `TCAF_17thFleetCB` | ✅ `0x9e527c53` |
| `ADANPLA`, `TCAFA` | `TCAF_17thFleetShipA` | ✅ `0xee14c77c` |
| `ADANPLB`, `TCAFB` | `TCAF_17thFleetShipB` | ✅ `0xef1af07c` |
**6 of 6.** The control matters as much as the hits: four same-shaped names the
series does *not* contain — `TCAF_FleetCC`, `TCAF_17thFleetCC`, `TCAF_ShipA_01`,
`TCAF_17thFleetShipC_01` — score **0 of 4**, so this is not "any plausible name
hits an unnamed slot".
### 🔴 Refuted: the undeclared tables are not tutorial chatter
The eight tables that neither route 1 nor route 2 names are undeclared because
**nothing on the disc declares them** — no `UnitMessageSet` entry, and their own
names appear as strings nowhere. `UnitMessageSet_S<NN>.tbl` exists for 22 of the
28 stages and the six missing are exactly **S18–S23, the tutorials**, so
"the undeclared eight are tutorial chatter" was the obvious reading. It is
**wrong**: the eight are `PresetMessage_Katana_14_S16-2` and
`PresetMessage_Margras_04_S14-1` — both **story** stages — plus the six TCAF
fleet/ship tables above, which carry no stage tag at all. Not one is a tutorial.
What that leaves is a different and smaller claim: the tutorials ship **no**
`UnitMessageSet`, and no rule table is tagged `_S18`…`_S23`, so on this evidence
the six tutorial missions have no reactive chatter of their own.
## ✅ Correction to `squadron-orders.md`