re: the base-solver's confidence axis was inverted
The remaining named false-positive mode - "107 rows solve to a 64K-boundary
base, a bare addis with no addi of its own, so any scatter of displacements
votes for it" - is refuted by its own measurement.
New positive test in the tool: simulate lis/addis rD,r0,HI + addi rD,rA,N +
or rD,rA,rA forward through each row's function and ask whether the solved
base lands in the solved register.
64K-boundary bases ("low confidence") : 107 / 107 confirmed
non-zero low half ("trustworthy") : 8 / 154 confirmed
A round base is the case where the compiler needed no second instruction, so
`addis r11, r0, 0x820B` stands in the code in full. A miss on the other class
is silence (base built in the caller or loaded from memory), not refutation.
Control: every row the corpus independently validated against the disc has a
64K-boundary base - debriefing, career, save, leaderboard, the 205-name PG*
HUD roster, material slots, the S16 boss collision/frames/motions and its
loader. 13 rows over 10 functions. The dense-short-string false positives the
corpus did name (r31 = 0x8202xxxx) all sit in the "trustworthy" class.
The 0x820B0000 cluster is DUPLICATION, not error: 60 of its 82 rows are one
function emitted 60 times, exactly 491 instructions each, two instructions
differing (both global data pointers), identical 41-address string sequences.
40 resource names written into a per-copy global via sub_8217FA08 at 24-byte
strides. 38 of the 40 are disc GameResourceID values (480 distinct); rot_n001
and rou_e202 are not, and no disc GameResourceID uses the rot_ prefix.
Artefact diff 13/4, confined to the replaced section; the 261-row table and
the 64K histogram untouched; byte-identical on a second run. Fourteen other
artefacts byte-identical.
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@@ -5553,3 +5553,67 @@ was a second one. **The shortlist is now empty.** Still open: whether a `stvx`-
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style helper elsewhere fooled a *non*-`r0` row (the 64K-boundary cluster is the
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remaining known false-positive mode, unaddressed); `Detail_Window_Known/_Unknown`;
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whether `Extra01…04` map onto the challenge missions.
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---
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## 🔴✅ 2026-08-28 — the base-solver's confidence axis was inverted
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Item (a): the remaining named false-positive mode, "**107 rows solve to a base on
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a 64K boundary — a bare `addis rX, r0, 0xHHHH` with no `addi` of its own, so any
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scatter of displacements votes for it**". **Refuted, and by its own measurement.**
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**The test, now in the tool.** Simulate `lis`/`addis rD, r0, HI`,
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`addi rD, rA, N` and `or rD, rA, rA` forward through each row's own function and
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ask whether the solved base ever lands in the solved register — positive
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confirmation from the instruction stream, independent of the displacement vote.
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* bases on a **64K boundary** ("low confidence"): **107 / 107 confirmed**
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* bases with a **non-zero low half** ("trustworthy"): **8 / 154 confirmed**
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A 64K-boundary base is the case where the compiler needed **no second
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instruction**, so `addis r11, r0, 0x820B` stands in the code in full. A non-zero
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low half usually means the base was built in the caller or loaded from memory,
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which the simulation cannot see — a miss there is silence, not a refutation
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(the control `sub_82341A20 r30` is one such silence; it stands on 217/226 and on
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the disc).
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🔑 **The control that settles it: every row the corpus independently validated
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against the disc has a 64K-boundary base** — debriefing `sub_822814D8`, career
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`sub_8227A3A0`, save `sub_82286BC8`, leaderboard `sub_8219E560`, the 205-name
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`PG*` HUD roster `sub_822215D0` (r11 and r10), material slots + shader constants
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`sub_822E3EC8` (r11 and r10), the S16 boss collision/frames/motions
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`sub_823AE908` / `sub_823BDAA8` (r11 and r10) / `sub_823C0260`, and the boss
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loader `sub_82315AE8`. Thirteen rows over ten functions. Meanwhile the
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dense-short-string false positives the corpus *did* name — the
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`r31 = 0x8202xxxx` rows — all sit in the class that was called trustworthy.
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**The axis pointed the wrong way in both directions.**
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✅ **What the `0x820B0000` cluster actually is: duplication, not error.** 82 rows
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carry that base and **60 are one function emitted 60 times** — exactly **491
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instructions** each, and diffing any two, **two instructions differ**, both a
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global data pointer (`addi r30, r11, 14272` vs `15552`; `addi r3, r11, -13024` vs
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`-12984`). All 60 reference an **identical sequence of 41 string addresses**,
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writing 40 resource names into a per-copy global through
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`sub_8217FA08(dest, name, -1)` at 24-byte strides. A static array duplicated once
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per translation unit. The resolution ratio cannot show that, and the confirmation
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test does not care.
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The roster is 30 `rou_*`, 6 `mob_*`, 3 `rob_*`, 1 `rot_*`, and **38 of the 40 are
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`GameResourceID` values on the disc** (480 distinct, each used once).
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[[collisionset]] owns the prefix vocabulary and the `GameResourceID` link; what it
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does not say is that the image compiles a fixed 40-name subset. 🟡 The two that
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are not disc `GameResourceID`s: **`rot_n001`** — and no disc `GameResourceID` uses
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the `rot_` prefix at all (`eff` 197, `rou` 172, `mob` 71, `wep` 23, `rob` 4,
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`stg*` 9) — and **`rou_e202`**, whose siblings `rou_e201` and `rou_e901` are both
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present.
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Artefact diff is 13 added / 4 removed, confined to the replaced section; the
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261-row table and the 64K-base histogram are untouched, and the file is
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byte-identical on a second run. Written up in
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`docs/re/structures/player-tuning-tables.md`.
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🟡 Not settled: what reads the 60 duplicated globals; what selects 40 of the disc's
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172 `rou_*` ids; whether `rot_n001` / `rou_e202` appear anywhere else on the disc.
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**Both of the solver's named false-positive modes are now closed — one real
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(`r0`), one refuted (the 64K flag).** What remains unmeasured is the 146 rows the
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positive test is silent on.
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@@ -268,16 +268,25 @@
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sub_82766DB0 r11 0x82050000 12 / 29
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sub_827D7C00 r11 0x82060000 12 / 14
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## Confidence split
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bases with a non-zero low half (a real `addis`+`addi` pair): 154
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bases on a 64K boundary (LOW CONFIDENCE, see below) : 107
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## Is the base built by the function itself? (positive test only)
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rows whose function materialises the solved base into the solved register: 115 / 261
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bases on a 64K boundary : 107 / 107
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bases with a non-zero low half : 8 / 154
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A 64K-boundary base is `addis rX, r0, 0xHHHH` written out in full, so it confirms
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directly; it is NOT the low-confidence class it was first called. A non-zero low
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half usually means the base was built in the caller or loaded from memory, which
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the simulation cannot see -- a miss there is silence, not a refutation.
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64K-boundary bases by value:
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0x820B0000 x82 rows
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0x82030000 x10 rows
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0x82050000 x7 rows
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0x820A0000 x5 rows
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0x82040000 x2 rows
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0x82060000 x1 rows
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⚠ the 0x820B0000 cluster is ~60 near-identical functions in 0x8281xxxx-0x8284xxxx that all name the same `rou_e0NN` list.
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⚠ 60 of the 0x820B0000 rows are one function emitted 60 times: exactly 491
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instructions each, an identical sequence of 41 string addresses, differing only
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in two global data pointers. That is DUPLICATION, not error.
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## Is the row a DATA-TABLE schema? (names that are IDXD record/field names on the disc)
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distinct IDXD record+field names disc-wide: 13450
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@@ -360,3 +360,78 @@ region, and by the same mechanism).
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🟡 What this does **not** settle: the 🟡 stalled `SpaceSize` / `GlareType` /
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`Nebura_*` numerics are no closer — their reader was already known to be
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`sub_8230D1F8`, and the r0 row never was a second one.
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## 🔴 CORRECTION (2026-08-28) — the confidence axis was inverted
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Having killed the `r0` rows, the other named false-positive mode was "**107 rows
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solve to a base on a 64K boundary — a bare `addis rX, r0, 0xHHHH` with no `addi`
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of its own, so any scatter of displacements votes for it**". That reasoning is
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wrong, and the measurement says so.
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**The test.** The solver now simulates `lis`/`addis rD, r0, HI`, `addi rD, rA, N`
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and `or rD, rA, rA` forward through each row's own function and asks whether the
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**solved base ever lands in the solved register**. That is positive confirmation
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from the instruction stream, independent of the displacement vote.
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| | confirmed |
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|---|---|
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| bases on a **64K boundary** ("low confidence") | **107 / 107** |
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| bases with a non-zero low half ("trustworthy") | **8 / 154** |
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A 64K-boundary base is not evidence of a weak vote — it is the case where the
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compiler needed **no second instruction**, so `addis r11, r0, 0x820B` stands in
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the code in full and the base can be read off directly. A non-zero low half
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usually means the base was built in the **caller** or loaded from memory, which
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the simulation cannot see; a miss there is silence, not a refutation. (The
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control, `sub_82341A20 r30 = 0x82088F94`, is one of those silences — it is
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validated by its 217/226 resolution and by the disc, not by this test.)
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🔑 **The control that settles it: every row the corpus independently validated
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against the disc has a 64K-boundary base.**
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| row | base | what it is, verified elsewhere |
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|---|---|---|
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| `sub_822814D8` r11 | `0x820B0000` | debriefing keys, 21 `STAGE_RESULT` fields |
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| `sub_8227A3A0` r11 | `0x820B0000` | career keys, `OVERVIEW` 9 / `EX_OVERVIEW` 7 |
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| `sub_82286BC8` r11 | `0x820B0000` | save-screen keys ([[savegame-format]]) |
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| `sub_8219E560` r11 | `0x820A0000` | leaderboard, 13 records + 5 fields |
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| `sub_822215D0` r11 / r10 | `0x820A0000` | the 205-name `PG*` HUD roster ([[hud-config]]) |
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| `sub_822E3EC8` r11 / r10 | `0x820B0000` | shader constants + material slots ([[xbg7-mesh]]) |
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| `sub_823AE908` r11, `sub_823BDAA8` r11 / r10, `sub_823C0260` r11 | `0x820B0000` | the S16 boss collision, frames and motions ([[collisionset]], [[stage16-boss]]) |
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| `sub_82315AE8` r11 | `0x820B0000` | the S16 boss loader, 19/19 field names |
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Thirteen rows over ten functions. Meanwhile the dense-short-string false
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positives the corpus *did* name — the `r31 = 0x8202xxxx` rows on
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`sub_82341A20`, `sub_8230D1F8`, `sub_822F9498`, `sub_823AE908` — all sit in the
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class that was called trustworthy. **The axis pointed the wrong way in both
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directions.**
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### ✅ What the 0x820B0000 cluster actually is: duplication, not error
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82 rows carry base `0x820B0000`, and **60 of them are one function emitted 60
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times**. Each is **exactly 491 instructions**; diffing any two, **two
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instructions differ**, both of them a global data pointer:
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```
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9 828110FC addi r30, r11, 14272 | 8281250C addi r30, r11, 15552
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487 82811874 addi r3, r11, -13024 | 82812C84 addi r3, r11, -12984
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```
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Their sequences of string addresses are **identical, all 60** — the same 40
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resource names in the same order, written into a per-copy global through
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`sub_8217FA08(dest, name, -1)` in 24-byte strides. That is a static array
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duplicated once per translation unit, not sixty tables. The index is inflated by
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**duplication**, which the resolution ratio cannot show and the confirmation test
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does not care about.
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The roster itself: 30 `rou_*`, 6 `mob_*`, 3 `rob_*`, 1 `rot_*`. **38 of the 40
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are `GameResourceID` values on the disc** (480 distinct, each used once) —
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[[collisionset]] owns that prefix vocabulary and the `GameResourceID` link; what
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it does not say is that the image compiles a fixed 40-name subset of them.
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🟡 The two that are not: **`rot_n001`** — and no disc `GameResourceID` uses the
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`rot_` prefix at all (`eff` 197, `rou` 172, `mob` 71, `wep` 23, `rob` 4, `stg*` 9)
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— and **`rou_e202`**, whose siblings `rou_e201` and `rou_e901` are both present.
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Two names the image carries that this disc field never uses.
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🟡 Not settled: what the 60 globals are read by, and what selects 40 of the 172
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`rou_*` ids.
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@@ -90,20 +90,81 @@ def main():
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for name, reg, B, tot, n in rows:
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print(" %-18s %-5s 0x%08X %d / %d" % (name, reg, B, tot, n))
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# Confidence. A base whose low half is 0x0000 is a bare `addis` with no
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# `addi` of its own -- any scatter of displacements votes for it, so those
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# rows are the tool's false-positive mode and must be read with the
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# resolution ratio, not on their own.
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# Does the function itself build the solved base into the solved register?
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# Simulate `lis/addis rD, r0, HI`, `addi rD, rA, N` and `or rD, rA, rA`
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# forward through the body; a hit is POSITIVE confirmation of the base.
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# (A miss is not a refutation: a callee-saved base is often materialised in
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# the caller or loaded from memory, which is why the solver exists at all.)
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want = collections.defaultdict(set)
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for name, reg, B, tot, n in rows:
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want[name].add((reg, B))
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sim = con.execute(
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"SELECT address,mnemonic,operands FROM instructions "
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"WHERE mnemonic IN ('addi','addis','lis','or') ORDER BY address").fetchall()
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body = collections.defaultdict(list)
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for a, m, o in sim:
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i = bisect.bisect_right(starts, a) - 1
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if i < 0 or funcs[i][1] <= a:
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continue
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if funcs[i][2] in want:
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body[funcs[i][2]].append((m, o))
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confirmed = set()
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for name, pairs in sorted(body.items()):
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targets = want[name]
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val = {}
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for m, o in pairs:
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q = [x.strip() for x in o.split(',')]
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if len(q) != 3:
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continue
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if m in ('addis', 'lis') and q[1] == 'r0':
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try:
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val[q[0]] = (int(q[2], 0) << 16) & 0xFFFFFFFF
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except ValueError:
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val.pop(q[0], None)
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elif m == 'addi':
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try:
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d = int(q[2], 0)
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except ValueError:
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val.pop(q[0], None)
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continue
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if q[1] == 'r0':
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val[q[0]] = d & 0xFFFFFFFF
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elif q[1] in val:
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val[q[0]] = (val[q[1]] + d) & 0xFFFFFFFF
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else:
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val.pop(q[0], None)
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elif m == 'or' and q[1] == q[2]:
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if q[1] in val:
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val[q[0]] = val[q[1]]
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else:
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val.pop(q[0], None)
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for reg, B in sorted(targets):
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if val.get(reg) == B:
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confirmed.add((name, reg, B))
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round_rows = [r for r in rows if (r[2] & 0xFFFF) == 0]
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solved_rows = [r for r in rows if (r[2] & 0xFFFF) != 0]
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print("\n## Confidence split")
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print(" bases with a non-zero low half (a real `addis`+`addi` pair): %d" % len(solved_rows))
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print(" bases on a 64K boundary (LOW CONFIDENCE, see below) : %d" % len(round_rows))
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ok = lambda rs: sum(1 for r in rs if (r[0], r[1], r[2]) in confirmed)
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print("\n## Is the base built by the function itself? (positive test only)")
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print(" rows whose function materialises the solved base into the solved"
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" register: %d / %d" % (ok(rows), len(rows)))
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print(" bases on a 64K boundary : %d / %d"
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% (ok(round_rows), len(round_rows)))
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print(" bases with a non-zero low half : %d / %d"
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% (ok(solved_rows), len(solved_rows)))
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print(" A 64K-boundary base is `addis rX, r0, 0xHHHH` written out in full, so it"
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" confirms\n directly; it is NOT the low-confidence class it was first"
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" called. A non-zero low\n half usually means the base was built in the"
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" caller or loaded from memory, which\n the simulation cannot see -- a miss"
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" there is silence, not a refutation.")
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rb = collections.Counter(r[2] for r in round_rows)
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print("\n 64K-boundary bases by value:")
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for B, c in sorted(rb.items(), key=lambda kv: (-kv[1], kv[0])):
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print(" 0x%08X x%d rows" % (B, c))
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print(" ⚠ the 0x820B0000 cluster is ~60 near-identical functions in"
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" 0x8281xxxx-0x8284xxxx that all name the same `rou_e0NN` list.")
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print(" \u26a0 60 of the 0x820B0000 rows are one function emitted 60 times:"
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" exactly 491\n instructions each, an identical sequence of 41 string"
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" addresses, differing only\n in two global data pointers. That is"
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" DUPLICATION, not error.")
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# Is a row a DATA-TABLE schema or engine/XDK vocabulary? The objective test
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# is whether its names are IDXD record/field names on the disc.
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