re: counter-example weakens the probe-causes-freeze correlation
A pilot-only run froze at t~150.7s (frozen.py: max_pixel_delta=0), found by accident when the sweep-free experiment aborted at startup and the run flew with no script probe attached. The tally is now 3-of-3 frozen with the probe versus 1-of-3 without, not 3-versus-0. Still a lean, but not the clean separation the previous entry claimed, and marked down accordingly -- the fourth time a freeze conclusion here has had to be softened by one more run. The sweep-free test itself could not run: ScriptMission is re-allocated per run, so the address from an earlier run (0xBC7A2A20) read back all zeros. The cheap self-consistency check ([m+44] must equal the phase's [+244]) rejected it instead of reporting garbage, which is the part that worked. Names the cheaper replacement: a BOUNDED pointer scan. Every ScriptMission seen so far sits in 0xBC79xxxx-0xBC7Axxxx, so ~32MB instead of ~371MB would cut the sweep cost roughly tenfold. Not yet implemented.
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@@ -1217,3 +1217,41 @@ cause; if they continue, the per-sample reads are.
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**Cost so far:** three attempts to observe a phase advance, all truncated inside
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four minutes by a freeze the probe itself may be causing. The arrival transition
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at ~143 s was caught only because it happens early.
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## 🟡 2026-08-25 — a counter-example weakens the probe correlation
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The previous entry made the probe the leading suspect on a clean 3-versus-2
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split. **A pilot-only run has now frozen too**, and it came from an accident: the
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sweep-free experiment aborted at startup (below), so the run flew with *no*
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script probe attached at all. Its pilot state went identical at **t ≈ 150.7 s**
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and `frozen.py` confirms `max_pixel_delta=0`.
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| probe attached | clean | frozen |
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|---|---|---|
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| pilot only | 936 s, 1064 s | **150 s** |
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| pilot + `phase_watch.py` | — | 70 s, 126 s, 253 s |
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So it is **3-of-3 with the probe versus 1-of-3 without**, not 3-versus-0. That is
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still a lean, but it is no longer the clean separation the last entry described,
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and I am marking it down rather than keeping the stronger reading. This is the
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fourth time in this investigation a freeze conclusion has had to be softened by
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one more run.
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**What would actually settle it** is unchanged and now clearly worth the cost:
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alternate probe-on and probe-off windows *within* a single run, several runs, and
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compare freeze rate per unit of mission time. Between-run comparisons at n≈3
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keep producing splits that the next run erodes.
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## 🔴 The sweep-free test could not run: the ScriptMission moves
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The plan was to skip `find_mission()`'s two memory sweeps by passing an address
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from an earlier run. It does not survive: `0xBC7A2A20` read back **all zeros**
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this run, and the cheap self-consistency check (`[m+44]` must equal the phase's
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`[+244]`) **rejected it** rather than reporting garbage — which is the one thing
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that went right here.
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So the object is re-allocated per run and a hard-coded address is not viable.
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The sweeps still need replacing to run the experiment; the cheaper version is a
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**bounded** pointer scan — every ScriptMission seen so far sat in
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`0xBC79xxxx–0xBC7Axxxx`, so scanning ~32 MB instead of the full ~371 MB would cut
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the cost roughly tenfold while still finding it. Not yet implemented.
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@@ -14,7 +14,14 @@ It also does two things the earlier probes had to learn the hard way:
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* re-locates the ScriptMission if the pointer stops validating, rather than
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silently reporting stale numbers.
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Usage: phase_watch.py <Stage02.ssb> [secs] [every_s]
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`--mission 0x...` skips the two full guest-memory sweeps `find_mission()` does
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and validates the given address with a handful of reads instead. That exists
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because the sweeps are the leading suspect for the in-mission freeze: runs with
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this probe attached froze at ~70/126/253 s, while the same runs without it went
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936 s and 1064 s clean (mission-freeze-resume-spin.md). Sweep-free mode is the
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experiment that separates "the sweeps do it" from "the per-sample reads do it".
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Usage: phase_watch.py <Stage02.ssb> [secs] [every_s] [--mission 0xADDR]
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"""
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import os
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import sys
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@@ -33,15 +40,35 @@ def main():
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sym2 = isl.symbols(ssb, 2)
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secs = float(sys.argv[2]) if len(sys.argv) > 2 else 900
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every = float(sys.argv[3]) if len(sys.argv) > 3 else 5
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given = None
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if '--mission' in sys.argv:
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given = int(sys.argv[sys.argv.index('--mission') + 1], 0)
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path = gmem.mem_path()
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size = os.path.getsize(path)
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import frozen
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t0 = time.time()
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with open(path, 'rb', buffering=0) as f:
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m, fb = S.find_mission(f, size, ssb)
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if m is None:
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print('ScriptMission not located'); return 1
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print('file base 0x%08X ScriptMission 0x%08X' % (fb, m), flush=True)
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if given is not None:
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# Validate WITHOUT sweeping: the mission's symtab1 pointer must equal
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# the phase's, and the code base must be a plausible pointer. Both
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# are self-consistency checks internal to the two objects, so they
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# cost four reads instead of two full scans.
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code = S.u32(f, given + 24)
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s44 = S.u32(f, given + 44)
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ph = S.u32(f, given + 4)
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p244 = S.u32(f, ph + 244) if ph else None
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ok = (code and 0x10000 <= code < 0xFFFFFFF0 and s44 and s44 == p244)
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if not ok:
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print('given ScriptMission 0x%08X does not validate '
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'(code=%s s44=%s phase244=%s)' % (given, code, s44, p244))
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return 1
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m, fb = given, None
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print('ScriptMission 0x%08X (given, validated, NO sweeps)' % m, flush=True)
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else:
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m, fb = S.find_mission(f, size, ssb)
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if m is None:
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print('ScriptMission not located'); return 1
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print('file base 0x%08X ScriptMission 0x%08X' % (fb, m), flush=True)
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last = None
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next_frozen = 0.0
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while time.time() - t0 < secs:
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