Claude (auto-RE)
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One iteration ago I concluded assemble_ship was drawing a non-renderable collision volume. That named the wrong cause, and decoding the same resource from every container that holds it settles it: Stage_S01 172 verts 110 tris 49 x 23 x 42 <- a turret, correct Stage_S02 172 verts 110 tris 1600 x 2100 x 4800 <- wrong Stage_S08 same 1600 x 2100 x 4800 <- wrong Stage_S26 same 1600 x 2100 x 4800 <- wrong eleven others 49 x 23 x 42 <- correct Same resource, same vertex and triangle counts, correct in eleven containers and wrong in three. So the placement is legitimate (e303_wep_01 is a small shared turret cross-mounted on e101/e106), the original author's vbase-dedup explanation of the capture's silence stands, and my "dedup would show one, not zero" objection does not survive -- at its true size the turret is ordinary geometry. The defect is in the mesh decoder. The wider point: the decoder can produce wrong geometry WITHOUT declining. The XBG7 audit counted 814 honest refusals; this is the other kind, silently 100x too large. A screen for the signature (bounds exact multiples of 50, span > 1000) flags 22-32 models each in S02/S03/S08/S26/S27, but it also catches legitimate e_rou_* composite proxies, so that is a candidate list and not a bug count. Next: diff the anchor scan's chosen vb0 for this resource between Stage_S01 and Stage_S02 -- same resource, two outcomes -- and turn whatever distinguishes them into a post-decode sanity check so a silent mis-decode becomes a decline. Kept from the previous entry: the test can only fail one way, and cross-id placement is genuinely narrow (2 pairs across 335 ships). Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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# RE backlog
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Open items that are *not* being worked right now. Each entry says what is wrong or
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unknown, what evidence exists, and what the first step would be. Move an item into
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`INDEX.md` (with a `structures/…md` or a parser + test) once it is actually settled.
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---
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## Capital ships assemble wrong in the viewer
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**Reported:** 2026-07-30, by the user. **Status:** 🔎 **diagnosed 2026-08-10 — the
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format layer is exonerated.** Runtime captures of three classes (`f105`, `e105`,
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`e106`) at controlled range reproduce `assemble_ship` to ≤0.43 units in translation
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and to 0.000 in rotation for every part that does not move; see
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[`ship-placement-capture-generalisation.md`](ship-placement-capture-generalisation.md)
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§4. So look at **the viewer**: first that it passes `include_external = true`
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(`iso_loader.rs:4012` — with `false` an e106 loses its bridge and both nacelles,
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5 parts instead of 11), then its own transform stack.
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One real format-side bug was found on the way and is **fixed**: index-less parts
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(`e105_brg`) never matched their `GN_Bridge_01` hardpoint, so 34 (stage, ship) entries
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— `e102`, `e104`, `e105` across Stages 02–29 — assembled without a bridge. The other
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apparent exception (`e105_eng_01` rotation) was an aggregation artefact and is 0.000.
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The original report and its reasoning follow.
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The reborn viewer builds capital ships from the split XBG7 parts via
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`sylpheed-formats::ship::assemble_ship`, and they come out **wrong** — parts in the
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wrong place / wrong orientation.
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**Why this is a real finding and not a known limitation:** the RE write-up
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[`ship-placement-runtime-capture.md`](ship-placement-runtime-capture.md) declares
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static assembly ✅ **exact** as of 2026-07-26 — 9-channel joint tables
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`[TX TY TZ RY RX RZ SX SY SZ]`, Euler `Ry·Rx·Rz`, with
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`ship::tests::static_assembly_matches_runtime_capture` asserting static == runtime
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capture (T < 1.0, R < 0.02). So either the viewer is not using that path, or the
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claim generalises worse than the test suggests.
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**The likely gap:** that test is **one ship** — the `e106` destroyer, 8 parts plus
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two nacelles, two turrets and the hull mirror. Nothing pins the other classes.
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Rules that were derived from `e106` and could easily be `e106`-specific:
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- the engine cluster rig mounted at `GN_Engine_01` (two mirrored nacelles + centre);
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- "X-reflect the shared-geometry twin whose lateral offset opposes the geometry's
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dominant side" — a heuristic, not a decoded flag;
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- cross-id turret instancing (×2).
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**First step (the oracle already exists):** re-run the runtime capture on a *different*
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capital ship and diff static vs captured, exactly as `e106` was done — F10 in the
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`capture-ship-placement` build of `xenia-canary-native` dumps the ship shader's
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`c0..c2` WorldViewProjection rows per part; `WV_ref⁻¹ · WV_p` is the ship-space rigid
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transform, which is ground truth. Pick a class whose rig differs from `e106`
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(different engine count, a ship with no `sld`, a carrier). Then extend
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`static_assembly_matches_runtime_capture` into a per-ship table so a regression in one
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class cannot hide behind `e106` passing.
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**Also worth ruling out first, cheaply:** that the viewer's own transform stack (scale,
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handedness, node-instance recursion) is not re-breaking a correct assembly — compare
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the viewer's placement against `assemble_ship`'s output directly before blaming the
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format layer.
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---
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## Viewer: `include_external` is already on — that hypothesis is dead
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**Checked 2026-08-11.** The item above names "first that it passes
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`include_external = true` (`iso_loader.rs:4012`)" as the cheap first step. It
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does: `ShipBrowser::show_external` defaults to `true`
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(`iso_loader.rs:643`), the checkbox reads it (`ui.rs:1593`) and it is threaded
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through `RequestShipRender` → `build_ship_model` → `assemble_ship` unchanged
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(`ui.rs:1689`, `iso_loader.rs:4012`). So a ship rendered by the viewer is the
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full external assembly, not the bare hull.
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The viewer also does not have a transform stack of its own to blame: it bakes
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`ScenePart::apply` straight into the vertices and rotates normals by the same
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`p.m` (`iso_loader.rs:4030-4062`), so its placement is `assemble_ship`'s output
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by construction. What remains unexcluded, in order of cheapness: the mirror
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handling (`det < 0` reverses triangle winding only — a reflected part keeps its
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reflected geometry), `Xbg7Model::models_named` resolving the wrong sub-model when
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a resource name repeats, and the exhaust cones. **Next step is a visual**: the
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diagnosis has run out of things it can settle by reading, so the viewer needs to
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be run against a known-good class (`e106`) and its render compared with
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`ship_render`'s.
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---
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## Viewer: the duplicate-resource-name hypothesis is dead too
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**Checked 2026-08-11.** The diagnosis above left three candidates for why capital
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ships assemble wrong in the viewer: mirror handling, `Xbg7Model::models_named`
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resolving the wrong sub-model when a resource name repeats, and the exhaust
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cones. The second is now **refuted**, and comprehensively.
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`build_ship_model` resolves each placement with
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`base.iter().find(|m| m.name == p.resource)` (`iso_loader.rs:4041`) — first match
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wins — so a repeated resource name inside a container would silently draw the
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wrong geometry. It cannot happen: decoding **every** XBG7 resource in **all 22
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stage containers** gives **4 603 resources and zero repeated names**.
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```
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Stage_S01 62/62 Stage_S07 323/323 Stage_S13 290/290 Stage_S25 351/351
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Stage_S02 304/304 Stage_S08 388/388 Stage_S14 22/22 Stage_S26 318/318
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Stage_S03 214/214 Stage_S09 316/316 Stage_S15 386/386 Stage_S27 321/321
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Stage_S04 179/179 Stage_S10 7/7 Stage_S16 65/65 Stage_S28 118/118
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Stage_S05 92/92 Stage_S11 157/157 Stage_S24 162/162 Stage_S29 386/386
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Stage_S06 266/266 Stage_S12 376/376
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```
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Per-ship it is tighter still: `e106` wants 9 distinct names and decodes exactly
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9 models for 11 placements; `e105` 9 for 9; `f105` 5 for 6. Every placement
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resolves to the one model it names.
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**So two of the three candidates are gone** (this one and `include_external`),
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leaving **mirror handling** and **the exhaust cones** — and the still-untried
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visual comparison, which remains the right next step.
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---
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## Viewer: mirror handling and the exhaust cones are cleared too — the static avenue is exhausted
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**Checked 2026-08-11.** Both remaining candidates were tested across every ship
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on the disc, and neither shows the reported signature.
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**Mirror handling.** The concern was that `ScenePart::apply` bakes `R·(S·v)+T`
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while the viewer takes its winding-flip decision from `det(m)` alone and rotates
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normals by `m` alone — both ignoring `s`. A mirror encoded as a *negative scale*
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would then reflect geometry without flipping winding, drawing the part
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inside-out. It never happens: across **1 485 assembled parts** in all 22
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containers there are **22 mirrored parts, every one with `det(m) < 0`**, and
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**zero** parts with a negative scale or a non-uniform one. `apply_twin_mirrors`
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writes the reflection into `m` (negating its X column), so the viewer's flip
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always fires, and ignoring `s` for normals is harmless because `s` is always
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uniform.
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**Exhaust cones.** These are the one piece of geometry the viewer *invents* — a
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cone at each `GN_Jet`/`GN_SJet` frame, because the real engine geometry is
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recessed and the game draws FX there instead. If they landed wrongly they would
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read exactly as "a part in the wrong place". Across **335 assembled ships, 192 of
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which have exhaust frames, not one cone sits outside its hull's bounding box**
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(tolerance 10 % of the axis span).
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**Caveat, stated rather than glossed:** "inside the hull box" does not prove a
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cone is *right* — orientation and size are untested, and a cone could be wrong
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while still inside. What it does rule out is the reported symptom for that part.
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So every mechanism this diagnosis proposed is now eliminated: `include_external`,
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duplicate resource names, mirror handling, and cones-in-the-wrong-place. The
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format and assembly layers pass every static test available, and **the visual
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comparison is no longer merely the next step — it is the only remaining one.**
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Render `e106` in the viewer beside `ship_render`'s output of the same
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`assemble_ship` result; if they agree, the bug is in neither and the original
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report needs re-grounding against a specific ship and a specific expectation.
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---
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## ⚠️ The format layer is NOT exonerated — but the cause is a MIS-DECODE, not a stray volume
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**Found 2026-08-11 by finally doing the visual**, which the notes above kept
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naming as the next step. It overturns their conclusion.
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Render `e106` from the static assembly and from the baked runtime capture and
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compare — `ship_render` does both:
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| | placements | parts |
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| runtime capture (ground truth) | **8** | `bdy_01…04`, `brg_01`, `eng_01`, `eng_02`, `wep_02_01` |
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| `assemble_ship(--static)` | **11** | the same 8, **plus `e303_wep_01` ×2** and a second `e106_eng_01` |
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The render makes it obvious: the destroyer sits inside a white slab that dwarfs
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it ([capture](captures/e106-static-assembly-volume-bug.png)). That slab is
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`e303_wep_01`, and its own geometry is:
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```
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e303_wep_01 172 verts, 110 tris bounds X[-1000, 600] Y[-1050, 1050] Z[-2400, 2400] 1600 x 2100 x 4800
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e106_wep_02_01 1002 verts, 772 tris 269 x 179 x 417 ← what a real e106 turret looks like
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e106_brg_01 202 verts, 202 tris 105 x 76 x 305
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```
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**110 triangles, perfectly round axis-aligned bounds, and bigger than the ship it
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is mounted on.**
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### CORRECTION (same day, one iteration later): it is not a volume — it is a bad decode
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The first reading of this was that `e303_wep_01` is a collision/trigger volume
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the assembler wrongly draws. **That is wrong, and the evidence that settles it is
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decoding the same resource from every container that holds it:**
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```
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Stage_S01 172 verts 110 tris X[-24.5, 24.5] Y[0.0, 23.4] Z[-20.8, 20.8] ← 49 × 23 × 42, a turret
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Stage_S02 172 verts 110 tris X[-1000, 600] Y[±1050] Z[±2400] ← 1600 × 2100 × 4800
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Stage_S03… 172 verts 110 tris 49 × 23 × 42 (correct)
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Stage_S08 … 1600 × 2100 × 4800
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Stage_S26 … 1600 × 2100 × 4800
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```
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Same resource, same vertex and triangle count, **decoding correctly in eleven
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containers and wrongly in exactly three** (`Stage_S02`, `S08`, `S26`). So:
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- the **placement is legitimate** — `e303_wep_01` is a small shared turret,
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cross-mounted on `e101` and `e106`, and at its true size it is unremarkable;
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- the original author's explanation of the capture's silence (**vbase dedup**)
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stands, and my "dedup would show one, not zero" objection does not survive:
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with the correct decode the turret is small, ordinary geometry;
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- **the defect is in the mesh decoder**, which resolved this resource's vertex
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data differently in three containers.
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The render and the symptom are real; the cause named in the first version of this
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entry was not.
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### The part that matters more than this one resource
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**The decoder can produce wrong geometry without declining.** The
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[XBG7 audit](structures/xbg7-mesh.md) counted 814 resources it *refuses* — a
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visible, honest failure. This is the other kind: `e303_wep_01` decodes "fine" in
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`Stage_S02` and is silently 100× too large. Screening for the signature (bounds
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that are exact multiples of 50 with a span over 1000) flags 22–32 models in each
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of `S02`, `S03`, `S08`, `S26`, `S27` — **but that screen also catches legitimate
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`e_rou_*` composite proxies**, so it is a candidate list, not a count of bugs.
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**Next:** diff the anchor scan's chosen `vb0` for `e303_wep_01` between
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`Stage_S01` (correct) and `Stage_S02` (wrong) — same resource, two outcomes, so
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the divergence is directly observable — then use whatever distinguishes them to
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add a post-decode sanity check, so a silent 100× mis-decode becomes a decline.
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### Why this was missed
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`assemble_ship` treats **every** `rou_*` node in the composite as a drawable
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part, and the doc comment states the cross-id mount as intended behaviour —
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`"INCLUDING repeated instances and cross-id turret mounts (rou_e303_wep_01_root
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×2 on the e106 hull)"` — with
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`ship::tests::static_assembly_matches_runtime_capture` asserting
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`count("e303_wep_01") == 2`. The absence from the capture was explained away as
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vbase dedup, but **dedup would show one instance, not zero**.
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The test cannot catch it either: it walks the capture's parts and looks each up
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in the static output, so **extra** static placements are invisible to it. That is
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the same shape of gap as the earlier `include_external` hypothesis — a test that
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can only fail one way.
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### Scope, stated carefully
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Sweeping all 335 assembled ships for the signature *ship-scale span with under
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400 triangles* flags **20 ships and 58 placements** over 28 distinct resources
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(`e005_ant_*`, `f001_ant_*`, `f002_bdy_*`, `f301_barrel`, `f303_body`,
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`e303_wep_01`, …). **Only the `e106`/`e303_wep_01` case is proven** — by render,
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by capture absence, and by geometry. Some of the others may be legitimately large
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low-poly parts, and each needs the same three checks before being called a bug.
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**Still true, and independent of the correction above:**
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`static_assembly_matches_runtime_capture` walks the capture's parts and looks each
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up in the static output, so **extra static placements can never fail it**. That is
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worth fixing regardless — it is the same one-way-test shape as the earlier
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`include_external` hypothesis.
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Also unchanged: only **two** cross-id placements exist fleet-wide (`e303_wep_01`
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on `e101` ×24 and `e106` ×36, across 335 assembled ships), so cross-id mounting is
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a narrow, real feature rather than a systemic guess.
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