re: the 42-vs-116 outlier does not reproduce; losses are observable

Two further runs sampled the counts from the instant flight is detected. Both
give 116 roster records in the very first sample, flat thereafter, with 14 unit
definitions throughout. That is not a load race: a race would climb toward 116
from below, and it never does.

The leading explanation was arithmetic rather than behavioural -- census_probe
counts raw aligned vtable hits while wave5_probe counted distinct primary_va
values, which are different quantities if an offset can alias to a VA another
offset also claims. Measuring both in the same run refutes it: 116 raw hits and
116 distinct VAs in every sample.

So the outlier stands unexplained. Four runs now read 116/300, 116/300, 116/296
and one 42/170, with save drift, freezing, load race and VA aliasing each
individually refuted. Recorded rather than dropped, because a one-in-four
anomaly in the measurement apparatus is what later turns into a wrong
conclusion. Practical rule adopted: discard a run that disagrees with 116 rather
than interpreting it, and reproduce any finding in at least two runs.

Useful new fact: craft declines steadily and monotonically in both runs, 300 to
288 and 296 to 280, roughly 16-20 losses over 168 s under the hunting pilot.
Whether the player or NPC crossfire is responsible is not determined here, but
destruction is visible in this signal, which is half of what the kill-versus-
no-kill experiment needs.

Still not observed in any run: an arrival.
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@@ -347,7 +347,14 @@ search cannot find a *schedule*.
Fan-in: only **41 of 116** records have craft (2×24, 4×1, 8×4, 18×12 = 300).
⇒ **an arrival is craft appearing for a record that had none; a kill is that
count decreasing — both attributable to a named squadron**, hence to a route.
🔴 **BLOCKER (2026-08-24): the per-record measurement does not reproduce.**
**Blocker downgraded (2026-08-24): the baseline DOES reproduce** — two more
runs give 116 roster records flat from t=0 (not a load race) with craft
declining 300→288 and 296→280, so **losses are observable**. Raw hits ==
distinct VAs (116 == 116), so the VA-aliasing explanation is 🔴 refuted too.
🟡 The single 42/170 run stays unexplained; rule adopted: **discard a run that
disagrees with 116 rather than interpreting it, and reproduce any finding in
≥2 runs.** ❔ No arrival seen in any run yet.
Earlier framing:
[`mission-per-record-strength.md`](mission-per-record-strength.md) — one run
gives 116 records/300 craft, the next 42/170, same disc, save and script. Save
drift is REFUTED (savedata untouched since 2026-08-23) and the guest was not

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@@ -72,3 +72,62 @@ Every sample was identical: 170 craft, 24 deployed, no `0 → n`, no `n → n
2. **Get a confirmed kill.** Without one, the kill-versus-no-kill experiment
cannot run. The pilot reaches firing range and does not destroy anything, so
the gap is accuracy, not engagement.
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# The 42-vs-116 outlier does not reproduce (2026-08-24)
Status: ✅ the baseline is stable and it is **not** a load race; 🔴 the VA-aliasing
explanation is refuted; 🟡 the outlier itself stays unexplained; ✅ losses are
observable.
`tools/re-capture/census_probe.py` samples the raw counts every 1220 s from the
instant flight is detected, and also reports what the scan is looking at.
## ✅ Two further runs, both stable at 116
```
t roster distVA craft defs extents MB
0 116 116 300 14 272 342.2
60 116 116 294 14 262 342.3
120 116 116 292 14 258 342.4
168 116 116 288 14 258 342.4
```
and a second run, 116 throughout, craft 296 → 280.
**Not a load race.** The roster count is 116 in the very first sample and never
moves — it does not climb toward 116 from below, which is what a race would look
like. Definitions are 14 throughout, matching Stage 02's 14 unit types.
## 🔴 Refuted: VA aliasing was not the cause
The leading hypothesis was arithmetic rather than behavioural: `census_probe`
counts **raw aligned vtable hits**, while `wave5_probe` counted **distinct
`primary_va` values**, and if one offset can alias to a VA another offset also
claims, those are simply different numbers. Measuring both in the same run
settles it: **116 raw hits, 116 distinct VAs, in every sample**. They are the
same number here, so the difference in what was counted cannot explain 42.
## 🟡 The outlier stands, unexplained
Four runs now: 116/300, 116/300, 116/296 — and one 42/170. Same disc, save,
script and stage; save drift, freezing, load race and VA aliasing are all
individually refuted. I do not know what produced it.
What that changes in practice: the baseline is trustworthy enough to build on,
but **any single run that disagrees with 116 should be discarded rather than
interpreted**, and a result must be reproduced in at least two runs before it is
written down as a finding. Recorded rather than quietly dropped, because a
one-in-four anomaly in the measurement apparatus is exactly the kind of thing
that later turns into a wrong conclusion.
## ✅ Losses are observable; arrivals still are not
Craft declines steadily and monotonically in both runs — 300 → 288 and
296 → 280, roughly 1620 losses over 168 s under the hunting pilot. Whether the
player or the NPC crossfire is responsible is not determined here; what matters
is that **destruction is visible in this signal**.
No arrival has yet been seen in any run. The per-record `0 → n` watch is still
the right instrument, and it can now be run against a known-good baseline.

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#!/usr/bin/env python3
"""Why does the roster-record count differ between runs (116 vs 42)?
Samples the counts repeatedly WITHIN one run, from the instant flight is
detected, and also reports what the scan is actually looking at:
* roster records -- vtable 0x820AF030 hits
* craft -- unit-definition-pointer sites in the entity heap
* definitions -- vtable 0x820AF844 hits
* extents/bytes -- what gmem.extents() enumerates, to test whether the scan
region itself differs between runs
A count that climbs = a load race. A count flat at a run-specific value = not a
race, and the cause is in the guest, not the probe.
"""
import os, sys, time, struct, collections
sys.path.insert(0, __file__.rsplit('/', 1)[0])
import gmem, gworld, entities2
ROSTER_VT = struct.pack('>I', 0x820AF030)
DEF_VT = struct.pack('>I', 0x820AF844)
DELTA = 0x130
def count_vt(fd, size, vt, want_vas=False):
"""Raw aligned hits, and optionally how many DISTINCT primary VAs they map
to. wave5 printed the latter and census the former; if an offset can alias to
a VA another offset also claims, the two are different numbers and that alone
would explain 42 vs 116."""
n = 0; vas = set()
for a, b in gmem.extents(fd, size):
pos = a
while pos < b:
m = min(1 << 24, b - pos)
blob = os.pread(fd, m, pos)
i = blob.find(vt)
while i != -1:
if (pos + i) % 4 == 0:
n += 1
if want_vas:
v = gmem.primary_va(pos + i)
if v is not None: vas.add(v)
i = blob.find(vt, i + 1)
pos += m
return (n, len(vas)) if want_vas else n
def extent_stats(fd, size):
n = tot = 0
for a, b in gmem.extents(fd, size):
n += 1; tot += b - a
return n, tot
def craft_count(fd, defs):
lo, hi = gmem.va_to_off(entities2.ENT_VA_LO), gmem.va_to_off(entities2.ENT_VA_HI)
n, pos = 0, lo
while pos < hi:
m = min(1 << 24, hi - pos)
blob = os.pread(fd, m, pos)
for k in range(0, len(blob) - 3, 4):
if blob[k:k+4] in defs: n += 1
pos += m
return n
def main():
secs = int(sys.argv[1]) if len(sys.argv) > 1 else 180
every = int(sys.argv[2]) if len(sys.argv) > 2 else 12
w = gworld.World(); fd = w.fd; size = w.size
t0 = time.time()
print('%5s %8s %8s %7s %6s %8s %10s' %
('t', 'roster', 'distVA', 'craft', 'defs', 'extents', 'MB'))
while time.time() - t0 < secs:
el = round(time.time() - t0)
defs = entities2.definitions(w)
r, rvas = count_vt(fd, size, ROSTER_VT, want_vas=True)
d = count_vt(fd, size, DEF_VT)
c = craft_count(fd, defs) if defs else 0
en, eb = extent_stats(fd, size)
print('%5d %8d %8d %7d %6d %8d %10.1f'
% (el, r, rvas, c, d, en, eb / 2**20), flush=True)
time.sleep(max(0, every - (time.time() - t0 - el)))
return 0
if __name__ == '__main__':
sys.exit(main())

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#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -u
export HOME=/sylph-home/re SDL_AUDIODRIVER=dummy DISPLAY=:98
export PYTHONPATH=/sylph-home/.local/lib/python3.12/site-packages
SD="$(cd "$(dirname "$0")" && pwd)"
SECS="${1:-180}"; EVERY="${2:-10}"; HUNT="${3:-1}"
CFG=/tmp/nav-live.json
"$SD/launch_mission.sh" fly || { echo "BOOT FAILED"; exit 1; }
if python3 "$SD/entities2.py" self 0x130 "$CFG" >/dev/null 2>&1; then
SYLPH_HUNT="$HUNT" SYLPH_KILL_TURRETS=1 nohup python3 "$SD/pilot.py" "$CFG" "$SECS" \
</dev/null >/tmp/live-pilot.log 2>&1 &
PILOT=$!; echo "--- pilot (SYLPH_HUNT=$HUNT)"
else PILOT=""; echo "--- BIND FAILED, no pilot"; fi
python3 "$SD/census_probe.py" ; rc=$?
[ -n "$PILOT" ] && kill "$PILOT" 2>/dev/null
echo "LIVENESS DONE rc=$rc"