Burst design repeated with the HUD clock bracketed (01:01.86 -> 02:10.61, ~x1.26)
and roll measured in the same flight.
pitch 87.0 @ 85 82.8 @ 308 47.0 @ 1077 min:max 1.85
roll 125.0 @ 76 119.0 @ 291 82.6 @ 1023 min:max 1.51
SHAPE CONFIRMED on both axes: the rate interpolates between _Min (at minimum
speed) and _Max (at maximum speed), matching to 1.6% for pitch (vs PitchMinus
75/40 = 1.88) and 5.6% for roll (vs 200/125 = 1.60). Both ratios are
clock-independent so they stand regardless of the conversion, and pitch's
re-confirms ly+ = pitch-MINUS (reproducing 1.82 from the previous run).
ABSOLUTE SCALE DOES NOT MATCH, and not in the same direction:
pitch measured/predicted = 1.15, 1.21, 1.07 consistently OVER
roll = 0.62, 0.64, 0.60 consistently UNDER, very flat
A clock error cannot explain this -- it would move both axes together and these
go opposite -- so the discrepancy is per-axis. Candidates, neither measured: a 1 s
burst not completing the angular-acceleration ramp (would under-read; fits roll's
flat 0.62, not pitch's excess), or an unidentified per-axis multiplier. Left as an
open question with the separating test named: 1 s versus 3 s bursts at the same
throttle, where the ramp hypothesis predicts the longer burst reads higher.
Also noted: the roll run correctly REFUSED on a WEAK row pin after the pitch
bursts left the craft tumbled -- and roll is immune to that labelling, which the
guard's own message says, so ALLOW_WEAK_PIN=1 is its documented exception. A guard
that states its own exception is worth having.
The design the sweep could not provide: settle the throttle, measure the settled
speed, pitch for ONE second so speed barely moves inside the burst. Three
throttles, two repeats, row pin CONFIDENT, fresh flight.
LT min burst speed ~105 rate 113.6, 109.5 deg/wall-s
cruise ~383 100.2, 88.4
RT max ~1483 52.2, 70.5
Rate falls monotonically with speed -- 111.5 -> 94.3 -> 61.4 -- at three KNOWN,
SETTLED speeds instead of smeared across a bleeding one.
The decisive comparison needs no clock. Absolute rates depend on the run's clock
ratio, but the min:max RATIO cancels it:
measured min:max = 1.82
AV_PitchMinus_Min/Max 75/40 = 1.88 -> 3.0% apart
AV_PitchPlus_Min/Max 150/70 = 2.14 -> 15.1% apart
Two conclusions, neither resting on a clock measurement:
- _Min/_Max really do mean "at minimum / at maximum speed", with the rate
interpolating between them: shape confirmed to 3%.
- ly+ drives pitch-MINUS, not plus. The craft has asymmetric pitch authority
(75/40 down vs 150/70 up) and the ratio picks the pair cleanly.
Absolute magnitudes remain open: this run did not bracket the HUD clock, so
deg/GAME-second cannot be computed from it, and picking a ratio that makes the
numbers fit would be circular. The probe now screenshots the clock at both ends.
Also: fly_stage.sh now waits for the TAKE-OFF load too. Guarding only the stage
load left a run pressing A into a black screen and then reporting "player entity
not found" from a game that never reached flight.
Fresh flight, row pinning CONFIDENT (margin 0.413), one sweep and nothing before
it. axis_probe now REFUSES to measure on a WEAK pin (ALLOW_WEAK_PIN=1 overrides)
since it is a precondition, not a warning: roll is immune to the up/right
labelling but pitch and yaw are not.
Clock x1.26. Binned by speed, both in game units, against the linear
interpolation of AV_PitchPlus_Min 150 (at MinimumVelocity 100) to _Max 70 (at
MaximumVelocity 1200):
speed ~435 measured 100.8 predicted 125.6
speed ~572 113.8 115.7
speed ~709 126.3 105.7
speed ~846 83.1 95.7
speed ~983 72.7 85.8
Supported: the magnitudes (73-126 measured vs 86-126 predicted) and a falling
high-speed end. NOT supported: the interpolation law. Scatter is +-25%, the two
fastest bins hold 1 and 2 windows (the first moments before the speed bled), and
the slowest bin misses in the wrong direction.
The flaw is structural, not statistical: a sweep DRIVEN by the speed bleeding
cannot dwell at either extreme, which is exactly where the law is most testable.
What would settle it: hold a settled throttle and pitch for ~1 SECOND, so speed
barely moves inside the burst and each burst gives one honest (speed, rate) point;
repeat at LT / neutral / RT for three clean points at known speeds. Recorded as
the next design rather than attempted as a fifth variation of the same sweep.
Fitting rate against instantaneous speed produced a tidy "rate rises with speed"
relationship, with speeds up to 4795 when the craft's maximum is 1200. It is
entirely an artefact: 20 Hz polling is faster than the guest updates these fields,
so a per-read delta is either exactly zero (no update yet) or a whole frame's
worth divided by a fraction of a frame. 111 of 352 reads were zero on BOTH
channels -- position and attitude update on the same frame, so the two are
perfectly correlated, and dividing each by the short wall dt produced the
correlation out of nothing.
Fix: aggregate over windows spanning many frames (0.5 s). A sum of |delta| over
such a window is right however the updates fall inside it.
This does NOT affect the swept-total probes (roll_axis.py, rate_probe.py) -- they
already summed over the whole dwell, immune for the same reason. Only per-sample
instantaneous rates were ever wrong, so no earlier number moves.
The windowed re-run is NOT yet claimed as a result. It gives plausible magnitudes
but still shows rate rising with speed, against the definition's PitchPlus_Min 150
> _Max 70, and it has two disqualifiers: it ran on an instance where the craft was
already tumbling from the previous sweep, so pinning reported "WEAK -- craft may
not be level", and the sweep started mid-range rather than at maximum. A clean
answer needs a fresh flight with pinning CONFIDENT and nothing before it. Since
what is in doubt is precisely what _Min/_Max mean, a measurement through a
doubtful instrument cannot settle it.
Both datasets kept, the bad one labelled, because the aliased curve is a good
example of what a manufactured correlation looks like.
Measured pitch with the rows properly pinned, against this craft's own disc caps
(AV_PitchPlus_Min 150, AV_PitchPlus_Max 70):
min speed (LT) 1391.0 deg / 8.00 s, clock x1.326 -> 131.1 deg/game-s vs 150
max speed (RT) 989.0 deg / 8.05 s, clock x1.318 -> 93.2 deg/game-s vs 70
A rate 33% ABOVE a cap is not a finding, it is a broken instrument. The HUD speed
is in the same bracketing screenshots that give the clock, so read it:
slow phase 102 -> 18
fast phase 1193 -> 589
The speed is NOT constant during the dwell -- pitching halves it in 8 seconds.
The cap is speed-dependent, so as the craft slowed its cap rose, and an 8-second
average necessarily lands between the max-speed cap and a mid-speed one. The 133%
is entirely the instrument.
This also weakens the roll result committed earlier: same method, so 120.9 vs
AV_Roll_Max 125 is CONSISTENT but is not a tight test -- the true cap could be
lower and still produce that average. Said plainly in the doc rather than left
standing as a clean confirmation. Min-speed figures are less affected; there is
little speed left to lose.
Proper fix, not yet done: dwell ~1-2 s so speed barely moves, or sample HUD speed
continuously and fit rate against INSTANTANEOUS speed -- which yields the whole
rate-vs-speed curve instead of two points.
Separately this is a flight-model finding: TURNING COSTS SPEED, steeply, with the
throttle still at maximum. A reimplementation treating the throttle as a speed the
craft simply holds will be wrong during manoeuvres.
The probe now pins which non-forward row is up and which is right, instead of
taking the D3D convention on faith:
row world-Y means: [0.469, 0.883, -0.000] forward = row 2
-> up = row 1, right = row 0 CONFIDENT
That is the OPPOSITE of the assumption the previous run used, so that run's yaw
and pitch columns were swapped -- under the correct labels its ly+ reading of
154.1 deg/wall-s is PITCH, which is what a left-stick Y should do.
Measured with the unknown inputs FIRST, each passing a liveness check:
rx 0.0 0.0 0.0 ry 0.0 0.0 0.0
LB 0.0 0.0 0.0 RB 0.0 0.0 0.0
lx roll 209.8 ly pitch 154.1
These zeros are trustworthy where the previous run's were not: the craft was
verified alive between inputs, and the probe aborted the moment it stopped moving
rather than reporting the clean zeros a destroyed craft produces (it did abort,
after lx+, which is why lx/ly are carried from the earlier run rather than
re-measured).
So NO PAD INPUT YAWS THE CRAFT. AV_Yaw_* (45/25) exists in the definitions but
nothing on the right stick or the shoulders drives it, which upgrades the old
"yaw: no input found" from a failure to find one into a measurement that the
remaining candidates do nothing. The natural reading is that yaw is a consequence
of banking rather than a commanded axis.
Not covered, and not claimed: the d-pad (tactical map) and the face buttons
(fire/weapon select). Neither is a plausible flight axis; neither was measured.
Measured about the FORWARD axis (roll_axis.py), which is the fix the withdrawal
specified: express the new up-vector in the old (up, right) basis and take
atan2(u.w_old, u.u_old), so the component along forward -- what pitch produces --
is dropped by construction. The old probe watched a non-forward matrix row, which
sees any rotation that moves it, and that is why two different stick axes produced
the same numbers.
Stage 02, file pad, single-axis holds (lx=32767 with every other channel exactly
0, trigger held in the same write since the pad state is written whole), 5 s
settles, 8 s dwells, each phase bracketed by HUD-clock screenshots:
min speed (LT) 1 856.9 deg / 8.01 s wall, clock x1.247 -> 185.9 deg/game-s
vs AV_Roll_Min 200
max speed (RT) 1 181.2 deg / 8.02 s wall, clock x1.218 -> 120.9 deg/game-s
vs AV_Roll_Max 125
So roll behaves exactly like pitch: the rate cap falls as speed rises and
_Min/_Max mean "at minimum / at maximum speed". The withdrawn claim that roll
shows NO speed dependence is reversed, and the axis rule is now confirmed on a
second axis instead of contradicted by it.
Both land just under their caps (93% and 97%), the right side for a rate limit.
The shortfall is NOT explained and no claim is made about it: candidates are the
craft not being exactly at min/max speed after 5 s, and the 20 Hz swept-angle sum
undercounting.
The tell that the old result was broken was two conditions agreeing too well. The
tell that this one is sound is that they disagree in the direction the definitions
predict, on two independently bracketed phases.
Re-running roll with 5 s settles and in-run clock brackets:
this run's clock: TIME 00:34.93 -> 00:45.97 = 11.04 s game in 7.98 s wall = 1.383
min speed: 90.6 deg/wall-s /1.383 -> 65.5 deg/game-s (AV_Roll_Min 200)
max speed: 59.1 /1.383 -> 42.7 (AV_Roll_Max 125)
The corrected numbers are within a few per cent of the PITCH run's 67.8 and 40.9 —
two different stick axes cannot produce the same rates, so the probe is not
separating them. Cause: watching a non-forward matrix row sees any rotation that
moves that row, and pitch moves it as much as roll. The correct measure is rotation
ABOUT the forward axis (project the row onto the plane perpendicular to forward and
track that angle).
So "roll shows no speed dependence, unlike pitch" is withdrawn: it rested on 2 s
settles and a row that mixes axes, and the two runs disagree with each other
(144/150 then, 90.6/59.1 now). AV_Roll_{Min,Max} are not confirmed and the axis
question is open.
The clock ratio is now measured three times in three flights: 1.260, 1.311, 1.383 —
a property of the moment, not the machine, so every rate probe must bracket its own
phases.
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pitch_gametime.py brackets each turn phase with HUD screenshots, so the mission
clock's own advance converts wall seconds to game seconds within the same run:
this run's clock: TIME 00:33.68 -> 00:44.12 = 10.44 s game in 7.96 s wall = 1.311
pitch @ min speed 88.9 deg/wall-s /1.311 -> 67.8 deg/game-s vs AV_PitchMinus_Min 75
pitch @ max speed 53.6 /1.311 -> 40.9 vs AV_PitchMinus_Max 40
Both land on the definition (the slow phase 10% low, consistent with including the
AA_* ramp in an 8 s window), so the clock explanation covers angular motion as well:
every stated rate is per GAME second.
The ratio is not a machine constant — 1.260 in the earlier flight, 1.311 here — so it
must be measured in the same run as whatever it corrects. Bonus: the same shots show
the HUD reading 102 at full LT against MinimumVelocity 100.
Also documents the trap that cost three runs: a killed Canary leaves both its shm
image and its last frame on screen, so a dead emulator looks alive and the scans
report "0 moving triples" like a tooling bug. pgrep -x matches zombies, so
speed_law.require_live_emulator() checks the process state letter and refuses to
measure a corpse.
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Cleanest linear measurement: neutral throttle (HUD = CruisingVelocity 350), sticks
centred, 20 s of perfectly straight flight (displacement/path = 1.000):
8 900 world units in 20.1 s -> 443.6 /s -> 1.267x the HUD's 350
And the game's own mission timer across a wall-clock interval:
TIME 00:08.79 -> 00:46.97 = 38.18 s of game time in 30.29 s wall = 1.260
Same number. So the linear discrepancy is not a unit difference: the mission clock
runs ~1.26x faster than wall time under this emulator, and dividing world
displacement by WALL seconds inflates speed by exactly that. World units and
displayed speed share one unit; the definition velocities are per GAME second.
This supersedes the previous "world-unit vs displayed-speed" reading.
Left open (❔): settled turn rates measured 74.9/41.1 deg/s in wall time against
AV_PitchMinus_Min/Max 75/40, but the clock argument predicts ~94 for the first.
Either that agreement was luck inside a noisy sample (per-window rates spanned
61-96) or angular integration is frame-based where linear is time-based. The check
is to re-measure pitch and convert wall->game seconds with the clock ratio.
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Screenshotting the HUD speed readout at each throttle step, beside the
position-derived measurement of the same moment:
RT 0.00 HUD 350 (= CruisingVelocity) position ~447 ratio 1.28
RT 0.25 HUD 507 position ~652 ratio 1.29
RT 0.75 HUD 963 position ~1141 ratio 1.19
So (a) the HUD speaks the definition's units — exactly CruisingVelocity at neutral,
963 at three-quarters against the 987 the interpolation predicts — confirming the
throttle law in the game's own numbers without any position sampling; and (b) world
displacement runs ~1.2x the displayed speed. Since settled angular rates need no such
factor, this is a unit difference between the position triple and the velocity
fields, not a clock effect: a reimplementation moving entities at MaximumVelocity in
world coordinates will be ~20% slow.
Also fixes speed_law.find_player: a mission holds more than one *_Player object and
at least one never moves, so the finder now samples each candidate twice and keeps
the one that displaces. Locking onto the static one is what produced a run of exact
zeros while the game was visibly flying.
🟡 The ratio is 1.19-1.29 rather than a clean constant and every sample was taken in
a firefight; pinning it wants a quiet map.
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Re-measured with 5 s of settle per phase and the speed recorded at the moment the
turn starts (flight_law3.py):
pitch @ 130/s 74.9 deg/s vs AV_PitchMinus_Min 75
pitch @ 1821/s 41.1 vs AV_PitchMinus_Max 40
roll @ 110/s 129.5 vs AV_Roll_Min 200
roll @ 1722/s 149.3 vs AV_Roll_Max 125
Pitch lands on the definition's own numbers with NO scale factor, so the ~1.2x I
attributed to the emulated time base two iterations ago was an artefact of
differentiating during the AA_* acceleration ramp with too little settle. That
explanation is withdrawn: AV_* can be used verbatim.
What remains is only on the linear side — settled speeds still read high and vary
between runs (RT full: 1342 in one flight, 1821 in another, vs MaximumVelocity 1200),
consistent with a craft being shoved around in a firefight. The HUD reads exactly
CruisingVelocity at neutral. A clean linear measurement needs a quiet map; no cause
is claimed until then.
Roll re-measured with proper settles confirms the axis difference: no speed
dependence, both regimes near AV_Roll_Max, where pitch moved 75 -> 40.
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One flight, two measurements (flight_law2.py, binding early so the moving-craft scan
can see the player).
LT curve: 436, 379, 289, 209, 126 units/s across LT 0.00 -> 1.00 — a straight ramp,
whose endpoints after the ~1.2 time-base factor are CruisingVelocity 350 and
MinimumVelocity 100. So the law is symmetric:
RT: target = Cruising + RT * (Maximum - Cruising)
LT: target = Cruising - LT * (Cruising - Minimum)
Roll (measured on a non-forward matrix row, since roll turns about the forward axis):
~144 deg/s at minimum speed and ~150 at maximum — no speed dependence, where pitch
dropped by a third to a half between the same regimes. After the time-base factor
that is ~121, i.e. AV_Roll_Max 125 in BOTH regimes.
So _Min/_Max does not mean the same thing for every axis: pitch interpolates with
speed, roll appears pinned at Max. A reimplementation applying one rule to all axes
would get low-speed roll wrong by ~60%.
Caveat recorded: the two roll phases were 2 s of settling apart, marginal for a
126 -> 1342 speed change.
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RT is an analogue trigger, so "held" was one point on a curve. Walking it 0.00 ->
1.00 (throttle_curve.py) gives a straight ramp: 438, 626, 879, 1094, 1342 units/s.
Dividing by the ~1.2 time-base factor, the endpoints land on the definition's own
numbers (365 vs CruisingVelocity 350; 1118 vs MaximumVelocity 1200) and the midpoint
follows, so
target speed = CruisingVelocity + RT * (MaximumVelocity - CruisingVelocity)
which refines the earlier "selects one of three targets" reading: those three are the
curve's endpoints.
It also refutes the standing afterburner hypothesis that full RT is the burner: the
curve is smooth through full deflection with no step, and the shield does not move.
The LT half is not measured yet — the entity scan needs the craft moving when it
runs, so a mission left idling drops out of it. Bind early.
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The definition describes the burner (AB_ConsumeShield_Begin 50, AB_ConsumeShield 10,
AB_AV_* turn caps well below normal) but names no input, and carries no AB velocity
field.
Three probes, all negative for A, B, X, LB (plus LS/RS on the first):
- ab_probe.py: hold RT for a max-speed baseline, then each candidate — speed stayed
inside the baseline's own noise band every time.
- ab_state_probe.py: sample a window of the player object during each hold and
report any float that falls — nothing fell.
- HUD oracle needing no offsets: count green pixels of the SHIELD bar on a freshly
spawned craft. AB_ConsumeShield_Begin 50 should take a visible bite; the bar read
156/156/156/157/157 across baseline and all four buttons.
So the burner needs a chord, an input this pad cannot reach, or belongs to another
craft/the AI. Recorded so the obvious buttons are not re-probed.
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turn_law.py pins the speed regime with a throttle, holds a stick axis and
differentiates the craft's own forward vector over 1-second windows.
slow + nose down ~87 deg/s (AV_PitchMinus_Min 75)
fast + nose down ~54 (AV_PitchMinus_Max 40)
slow + nose up ~175 (AV_PitchPlus_Min 150)
fast + nose up ~136 (AV_PitchPlus_Max 70)
So agility falls with speed (_Min/_Max are at minimum/maximum speed, not rate
bounds) and pitching up is ~2x pitching down, exactly as the field pairs say.
Control mapping measured: LX is roll (forward vector barely moves, 3-5 deg/s), LY is
pitch (+1 = nose down per vgamepad's LY: -1 = up), and the right stick does not steer
at all.
The ~1.2x overshoot seen in the speed law appears again here (1.16-1.35x), and a
unit scale cannot explain both m/s and deg/s — a TIME BASE can: if the guest's
simulated second is shorter than the wall-clock second the probe measures against,
every rate reads high by the same factor. So the definition numbers are
self-consistent and these measurements confirm the shape of the law, not a scale.
Recorded 🟡: no yaw input found (AV_Yaw_* exists but neither stick yaws), which with
roll on LX and MaximumBank_Normal points at a bank-to-turn model.
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speed_law.py locks onto the player entity once and samples its position while
holding each throttle input, differentiating over 1-second windows.
no throttle -> ~420 (CruisingVelocity 350)
RT held -> ~1 530 (MaximumVelocity 1200)
LT held -> ~125 (MinimumVelocity 100)
release -> back to cruise, from either direction
So the throttle SELECTS a target speed rather than adding thrust — which is what a
reimplementation would most likely have assumed from Acceleration/Deceleration
alone. Those govern the convergence rate instead: ~440 units/s^2 measured on
release (Deceleration 500) and ~470-560 under RT (Acceleration 600).
Recorded as 🟡: measured world speeds run ~1.2-1.3x the definition numbers in all
three regimes while the HUD shows the definition value exactly (350 at cruise), so
world coordinates are a constant multiple (~1.25) of the definition's velocity unit;
the spread is wider than the constant is precise because the craft manoeuvres while
sampled.
Three traps documented: RT/LT are analogue triggers (the button verb is a silent
no-op and the first run measured an unflown craft), per-sample differentiation
aliases against the guest's update rate (0, 1519, 1985, 0, 2681 for smooth flight),
and the player entity only enters the typed scan ~15 s in while the craft dies within
minutes if nobody flies it.
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